Lily James Olds

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting.

It almost feels like part of what you're describing is that last mile of translation, as you're saying.

It's like there's the specificity on the ground and there's the specificity

from building the data sets, but not from the right places.

So as you said, where does that connect?

And I think one of the things that I think is so kind of fascinating about where you are and that some of our conversations have revolved around is

You wear so many hats.

You sit in so many different kind of institutional and otherwise silos, right?

It's like academia, you connect to the government, you connect to policy, you connect to smartholder farmers.

And so much of your work to create change is about connecting those dots.

And how do I...

sort of bridge through the messy metal to get the information to the right people.

So I guess I would love to hear first, not just from a data perspective, but from a, I guess, almost like project management perspective.

What are those challenges you encounter in connecting those dots?

And what is your kind of process or system in approaching these problems?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And as you said, just the understanding of obviously the context for how this is relevant.

My question is back to you as this individual that sits in all of these different sectors, spaces, academia, policy, government in the farm otherwise.

It sounds like what you're talking about is having to experience those things in context to make the data relevant.