Linda Holmes

Like, I think it was very well cast.

It has a couple of really satisfying kind of turns of fate for different people.

Mm-hmm.

There are some moments where I think people who are very smug and unpleasant suddenly find that things are not going for them as well as they thought they were.

People who appear doomed turn out to not be doomed.

And as you said, I think Yule as a strategist and as a player is a super interesting and appealing guy who I think unfortunately the show immediately decided we don't ever want somebody to win that way again.

Yeah.

I started loading it up with more advantages and twists and shifts and stuff like that to try to avoid having people win as much on strategy and steadiness as he did.

But yeah, that's a really fun season.

Very good season.

I am not an Aussie person, but I am not a Parvati person, but I am a Yule person.

Definitely a Penner person.

That's a fun dude.

Exactly.

It's kind of like I'm not well positioned anyway, but at least I can make sure these dopes are not well positioned either.

I love that season for that.

So that is Survivor season 13, Cook Islands.

I agree with you.

The opening concept of that season is ghastly.

Yes.