Lindsey Graham

The Democratic Party has leaders? That should be in the book. I'd love a list of that. I don't notice where they are. You know what, because it strikes me as an old, the liberal conservative battle almost seems like an older paradigm. You know what I mean? Like you and Carville are like the Japanese soldiers in 1953 that they'd find on islands that are like, we're still fighting, right?

Like, it almost feels like a battle that is, you know, quisp and quake. It was decided years ago, and it's not still going on.

Like, it almost feels like a battle that is, you know, quisp and quake. It was decided years ago, and it's not still going on.

I read the papers. I read, what do they call it there, the sports papers, the funny papers. I have not seen a great wave of dissent from this war. As a matter of fact, I would say... And the Persian Gulf War was a very popular war as well. I'd say this is the most popular military battle that I've ever experienced. I mean, very few dissenting voices.

I read the papers. I read, what do they call it there, the sports papers, the funny papers. I have not seen a great wave of dissent from this war. As a matter of fact, I would say... And the Persian Gulf War was a very popular war as well. I'd say this is the most popular military battle that I've ever experienced. I mean, very few dissenting voices.

Now, the they... I can't help but think that this is a tiny group of people, like Keebler elves, for instance. You know, I... In terms of the more knee-jerk... reactionary version of it. I sort of liken Carville. I put him in that category.

Now, the they... I can't help but think that this is a tiny group of people, like Keebler elves, for instance. You know, I... In terms of the more knee-jerk... reactionary version of it. I sort of liken Carville. I put him in that category.

And all the people who vote Democratic?

And all the people who vote Democratic?

To be fair, it is. I've been on car trips. And if you do have to go, you have to go. I mean, it is. To be fair. No, I think, to be fair, there are some legitimate points of dissent to be made. I think it's probably, you know, they may be slightly nonspecific out of the sort of fear of not wanting to criticize a wartime president.

To be fair, it is. I've been on car trips. And if you do have to go, you have to go. I mean, it is. To be fair. No, I think, to be fair, there are some legitimate points of dissent to be made. I think it's probably, you know, they may be slightly nonspecific out of the sort of fear of not wanting to criticize a wartime president.

In many respects, the lack of specificity may actually be deference rather than a wishy-washy non-deference.

In many respects, the lack of specificity may actually be deference rather than a wishy-washy non-deference.

Now, in your sense, though, so would you consider the Republican Party, then, they're all conservatives, and the Democratic Party's all... No, there are a lot of bad Republicans.

Now, in your sense, though, so would you consider the Republican Party, then, they're all conservatives, and the Democratic Party's all... No, there are a lot of bad Republicans.

No, it's interesting. I honestly feel like I have a different view. My view is that the liberal-conservative battle doesn't matter anymore. It's sort of a dinosaur. The real battle is actually extremism versus moderates. And that liberal versus conservative is an old Moynihan-Goldwater fight that nobody, and I say this with all due respect, gives a shit about anymore.

No, it's interesting. I honestly feel like I have a different view. My view is that the liberal-conservative battle doesn't matter anymore. It's sort of a dinosaur. The real battle is actually extremism versus moderates. And that liberal versus conservative is an old Moynihan-Goldwater fight that nobody, and I say this with all due respect, gives a shit about anymore.

And the real battle is actually extremism versus moderation.

And the real battle is actually extremism versus moderation.

And this country, if anything, is not about naysaying. So toe the line, kids. What happened? Wait a minute. You convinced me. How did you do it? Yeah, it's, you know, here's the thing. I feel like if we were both drunk, we'd probably end up agreeing.