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Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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A lot of people want to be an entrepreneur for the idea of what being an entrepreneur is. They kind of see what's happening online on social media. They're like, oh, you work from home or you work on the beach or it's sexy. It's not like that. Why do you feel like most of these business marriages don't work? If we just love each other, this will be fine, right?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Like I really miss those days. And we were on like a $15 recorder just thinking like, okay. Sometimes we would record on the notes app on our phone. Yeah. Just have like four episodes on the notes app on our phone. I was listening the other day to like one and then they were just, we'd have friends fake call in to the podcast and ask for advice.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Like they'd be like someone we'd be like, ask about this. And they'd be like, Hey, I'm Lauren. I'm a listener. And they were like, not a listener. It was like someone that we paid, like the guest was like my ex and his friends. And we would just sit in these horribly sounding conference rooms with the worst sound ever, just echoing. Everyone's all over the place.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I think that's what when I work with women or any business owners, I'm oftentimes when they're showing me everything that they're like, here's my Pinterest board. I've got the Instagram handle. I've got this. And they've got all the aesthetic. And I'm like, I love you girlies. But oftentimes that's procrastination for actually doing the thing.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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But then you get into the marriage and you're like, oh, this is a lot of work. The most important thing that people need to look for in relationship for entrepreneurs is... When we first started, I was so insecure about it.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And I'm like, you can have the full package, the perfect package. But if you don't have the audience, if you don't have the consumer, like what are we even doing here? Yeah. And I think I'm always someone that's a fan of building, building it well and getting the reactions from people. Because you're like, okay, what do people, I'm going to build it. What do you guys feel about this? Okay, cool.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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We're going to go here. We're going to go here. Like on the beginning of the business, people wanted to be in person. So we went on tour. We did live in-person events. And then we like evolved from there. And so rather than just staying in your house and building something, how can you really bring it out into the world and be with it as it's evolving and be okay with that process?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I have so much respect and love. So for anyone, this is me talking to you. I love you so much. That's working a full-time job and wanting to pursue your passion and your business and that thing that you're doing. Because for me and most of my life in the corporate world, I...

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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had this burning sensation and desire to do something with my life, to be creative, to create, to be my own boss, to live a life that felt different, that felt different than the corporate life was giving me. And so when I moved to Los Angeles, I had quit to pursue blogging full time. So I was like, I'm going to be a blogger full time. I had no plan, no purpose. I wasn't making money.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And that obviously you don't start making money from not making money. So I had to get a serving job. I was babysitting. I was nannying. I was doing odds and ends jobs at like 80 hours a week. I was like, okay, I can't do 80 hours a week and make so little. So I was like, I have to go back to the corporate world. I failed at being a blogger. I failed at doing entrepreneurship.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And I was really bummed. And it took me a long time to find another job. I'd been in debt at that point. But I was like, okay, let's do this. So I got back to working in the corporate world. That's when I met Lindsay. at that beginning of that point.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And it was beautiful because that job in the corporate world that I worked in digital marketing, not only supported me financially, but supported me in learning skills that I could apply to almost 30. But just really was something that I'm so grateful for. I don't think I showed up as the best employee. I wasn't someone that I don't think you'd want to hire because I was so obsessed with almost 30.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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But it was such a beautiful aspect of what we did. But what we would do is in the morning, Lindsay and I would talk on my way to work to downtown Atlanta traffic. We'd plan for the day. We'd talk about things that were going on, social media, planning for the podcast. At my lunch break, I would answer almost 30 emails. I would do almost 30 social.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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We would figure out what we were doing with guests. At the end of the day, either she and I would meet and record, or we would do something related to the podcast. So it was really something that on the weekends, during the week, we were just fully immersed and focused in the business. And it was just giving us so much life. We

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Like it was just feeding us in this way that I had never been fed before. So while I was definitely burning myself out and I wasn't very healthy at that point, it just felt really right and it felt really good. And it was sustaining me in a way, in a purpose way that I wanted so badly to be sustained in. So even though I was just going so hard, I felt this feeling that I hadn't felt ever.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Like, there's no limits how much money I can make.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And I felt this drive to purpose that just felt and moved me in a way I hadn't been. Yeah.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I think when I first quit my job to pursue blogging full time, I just thought it was like cute. I was like, oh, I'm just going to see what happens. I'm going to see where the universe meets me. And then in the second part, I was like, you know what's cute? Forecasting.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And like seeing how much revenue we have coming in for the next six months and seeing how much we're spending and seeing how much I need to earn to feel good and seeing how much you need to earn. It's like, I think it really asked and called for me to step into a new level of truth and a new level of clarity that I didn't really give myself before.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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With money, I was just, I didn't want to look at it. And now I was like, how can I really see clearly what we're doing and how we want to do this and how we want to live? Because if you want a plan, you have to be able to be with money in a way that's neutral, be in a money in a way that's loving, be with money in a way that's supportive of your goals.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And I think my reframe of that, of being like, this money is what's going to sustain my life. How can I look at it with respect and get really clear about what's going on rather than just putting it to the wind?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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But there was one moment I remember we were in our full-time jobs. We got asked to speak at this event and we hosted the event the full day. And I remember the amount that they paid us to speak at one session was the same as my biweekly paycheck. And I was like, in this one hour, I was myself. I had so much fun. I didn't have to put on. I wasn't faking it.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And in the corporate world, I felt like I was faking it. I felt like I was putting on a mask every day. I felt like I had to be someone I wasn't. And I was like, I know if I can make this much here, if you give me 40 hours a week, watch me. There's no limits how much money I can make. And so that moment for me was like the unlock where I was like, no, it's time. I love that. What was your moment?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I think, you know, people, it's not like we were the first people to tour, but like it was just in 2016, 2017, 2018, it was just a different world. It's like podcasting really from 2020 has started to become what it is. It's more like show-based, it's more touring.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And so we were touring just in this really native way. Like it was a world tour, but it was just super native. We'd bring on guests. We'd talk to people in person.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And having that in-person connection was so instrumental, not only because we could learn from them and be with them and listen to them, but it was also like created this social media moment online that was growing us in a way, in a marketing way that I don't think we would have had before. Yeah.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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It was creating this moment for people that were almost 30, that were struggling, that were like having their time. So I think that was instrumental to our growth. I think what we did there is what I always say with audience growth is you always want to lead and listen. So we led by being like, you know, we're going to go on tour. And then we listened to them.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Like, what do you guys want to see from us? What do you want more of? You can't be fully listening all the time to your audience because then you're not who you are. The reason why your audience is with you is because you're a leader and you are someone that is leading in culture. You are leading in whatever it is that you're an expert in.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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But you do have to listen to them because they're incredibly important. They are the reason why you exist and why you are making money in the way that you are. So it's such a balance of just finding that balance between leading and listening with your audience so that you can stay in your sovereignty and who you are, but also really connect with them in a real and genuine way. Yeah.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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There's just small indicators that she does that creates that intimacy with people. And she's amazing, friend of the pod, just an incredible speaker in that way. And she finds her lane and just really knows it. It's like, how can I make this simple, clear, relatable for people that's also impactful? But for me, that's not my style. I'm like so out there mentally in the way that I think.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I think when people can find their lane of what's working for them and really lean in on that and really dial in on that, that's what people should do instead of trying to be other people. But I think there's such a beauty to the simplicity. But I think what's worked for us is really staying authentic to who we are.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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You know, in the moments where I was going through my divorce or in the moments where we were really struggling with various aspects of our lives and even in our relationship, we've been really honest about it. And there's a magnetism to authenticity. Because you don't know what's going to happen next. You know it's true.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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There's this energy around it of truth, of happening in the moment, of relatability, of curiosity, of intention. And I think it's us just staying as authentic as we can to who we are in the moment and hoping that people can really see themselves in us and our struggle and what we're going through and find relatability in it and find inspiration where they can, but overall feel less alone.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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At least I think. I was like, what's your podcast? I'm like, I'm almost 50. What about me?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And everyone thinks they're just as clever each time they say that.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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We have to laugh as if it's the first time we're hearing it. And also I bought every domain that's almost 40. Every domain, almost 40.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I love that. I'm a domain shark. It's like my pastime.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Even for 10 years, you know? It's like the two things. It's like, and this is what's hard as an entrepreneur. You're like, okay, we have almost 30. There's a whole audience of people to serve. Do we want to serve the almost 30 audience forever with the tools, research, insights, support for this pivotal time period, you know, that we talk about in our book and that we experienced ourselves?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Or is it something that we do kind of try to reach a new audience with a different name change? And it's tough.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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When I have a man DM me that listens to the pod, like I'll have 50 that are like, what's your outfit or what are you wearing? And I'm like, ignore. And then a man, I'm like, I really love that relationship episode. I will spend my whole day like just like when the unexpected people listen, it's just my dream. I'm like, oh, this is my like. And like you, we have an age range. Totally.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I think we wanted to first culminate and put together everything that we've learned in the process of the rock bottom that we started at, where we met, and to building two sovereign, amazing lives that we love. In your late 20s, it's such a pivotal portal in time. And we realized that you're not lost, you're just becoming.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And that in the process of this growth and transformation period, how can we approach it with excitement? and with looking forward to the change and transformation. And I think if I would have had everything in this book when I was struggling so much with my mental health in my late 20s, I would have been so much happier. I'd be so much further in life. And I would have felt so much more at peace.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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That age in your 20s is unhappier and more anxious and depressed than ever. People are struggling more with their mental health than ever before. People are feeling more lonely. And our goal is to help people feel less alone in their process of awakening. And so In the book, we talk about how to support yourself through times of change and transformation. And we have research from studies.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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We have guests that we had on the show sharing insights and inspiration. And it's just the guidebook for anyone going through their process.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I wonder what was happening when you were 27 to 30.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Your prefrontal cortex is also coming online during that time. So your prefrontal cortex is actually responsible for you making decisions like that. Where you're like, I'm going to be more thoughtful. I'm going to be more strategic. I'm going to be more diplomatic about how I'm spending my time.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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So it's not only like the Saturn return period, but there's a lot of brain development that's happening that changes how you operate with life in the world. Where you're like, okay, now with my prefrontal cortex online and becoming conscious, how am I going to approach relationships? How am I going to approach my career? How am I going to approach my friendships?

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And there's just so much change happening that it's just can feel like a washing machine if you're not really being mindful of it. And if you don't have the permission to see it as an opportunity to lead you to a better life.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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Yeah, I think especially for entrepreneurs, I mean, the entrepreneur journey, you, in my perspective, and this could be wrong, so I was in corporate and being an entrepreneur, the entrepreneur has a different type of mindset. You have a different type of set of values and priorities. And so it can be hard actually as an entrepreneur to relate to people in the corporate world, I think.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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So just thinking about that for your entrepreneurial audience, just really understanding that your friendships are going to change. I think the number one thing that you can remember and accept in life is that your friendships are going to change. And that's okay. I think for me for so long, I felt so much shame that I didn't have the same four girlfriends that I grew up with.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And it wasn't Sex and the City. And it wasn't Girls. And it wasn't like every movie that I saw where everyone was best friends with the same people for their entire lives.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I had friends come in and out. I had changes. I had transitions. And that actually was a good thing. That was showing how I was changing, how I was evolving, how I was prioritizing different things like not drinking or partying or my business or spirituality. And so accepting that friendships will change is number one.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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I think number two, seeing friendships as a vehicle for your growth just as deep as your romantic relationships is huge. My romantic relationships have been so powerful for me, but my friendships have been such a place for growth and support and love. And now I see my friendships as equal to my romantic relationships. They really see me. They hear me. They've been with me.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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And women, especially in women relationships, the way that we can see and support one another is just next level. Yeah.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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They can't cheat though. They'll hang out with the other girlfriend.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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I'll never forget that. My mom, after getting divorced, she was like, you know, never lose your girlfriend. So She's like, your girlfriends are just so important. And, you know, I love men so much, but the texture and richness of my life has been so benefited by deep female friendships and relationships. And being an entrepreneur is not easy.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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You meet up against limiting beliefs and mindset like setbacks all of the time. You have fear, you have overwhelm, you have stress, you're putting yourselves out there, you're doing cringe things. And so to have cheerleaders in your corner or have people that really see you and support you has kept me going.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

Krista Williams & Lindsey Simcik: When Friendship Is a Business Superpower | Entrepreneurship | E353

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So with parents, sometimes we prioritize almost 30 our baby over our relationship. And so we're more in that role of the parents of our baby than we are as friends. And so it's sometimes felt like we've lost sight of friendship because we're so focused on the business and the growth of the business. And we also have to focus on aligning our dreams and visions for the future.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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It helped me become more of who I came here to be, to be honest. It gave me the tools, it gave me the friction, it gave me the feedback to allow me to be who I came here to be. And that was someone that's using her voice, someone that's standing in her power, someone that knows what she wants, someone that's clear on where she's going, and someone that has to meet every growth edge.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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I feel like in the corporate world, I was just spending a lot of my time and my energy towards someone else's vision that I didn't really even align with in the first place. And I was there for money, probably out of fear of not having money or not having purpose. And when you're an entrepreneur, you're putting all your eggs in your own basket, I guess.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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In a marriage, you have to continue to come back to like, where are we going? How are you feeling? Where are we going? And we have to do that all the time. So whenever people want to start businesses with their best friends, I'm always hesitant to tell them to do so because most of the time it fails when people do that. And we've been really lucky.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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And I feel like it's really just helped develop me as a better person because the more clear I am with my relationships within business, within my personal life, the more business I'll get, the more business will grow. And it's been so powerful. I couldn't see my life being any other way, but self-led and self-made through entrepreneurship. And I'm so glad for it.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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This is my personal belief, but I feel like a lot of people want to be an entrepreneur for the idea of what being an entrepreneur is. They kind of see what's happening online on social media. They're like, oh, you work from home or you work on the beach or it's sexy. Like there's a lot of entrepreneurship, I think, especially to earlier in the previous times that was like girl bossy.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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We put in the work during the process and it's been the most beautiful relationship of my life, but it's not easy.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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And made everything really, really sexy and fun and like really Instagrammy and marketing. And it's not like that. It's the most challenging thing that you'll do. And it has made me so insecure at times and so low at times and so unsure of myself at times. But it's also been so powerful. So I would check first, what is the actual desire? Because I think entrepreneurship doesn't happen.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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I think your creativity and your idea happens. I think you build what you want to do. You become who you want to be. You create what you're here to do. And then you become an entrepreneur. So I think it should be led by something that comes internally, like something that you feel like has to exist in the world. So I think waiting until you have that calling, that like desire, that thing.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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Like you feel it in your gut. Yes. You're like, this needs to exist. I need to create this thing because it doesn't exist. And I feel like my life sucks without it. My life isn't as good without it. So I think waiting until you're so cold that the things that come up and the how of it all just goes away. So when your why is so strong, your how just, it doesn't even matter how it happens.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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Like our passion and obsession with our connection and really finding this reason to help people feel less alone drove us to like, stay up late at night, invest money and take the risk. And so what I would say is find that thing or wait for that thing or look intently at the world a little differently with a different lens to see what is needed and then create that.

Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha

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So I think for most of us, the ideas that we were told about marriage were from Disney movies, were from media, were these ideas of marriage and relationships that are not actually real or supportive of healthy dynamics and relationships.

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I'm doing stuff like that. But it's like beauty.

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You know, we could essentially be in an unhealthy marriage forever, she and I. But what we want for our lives is to be happy, to be fulfilled, to do something great.

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So now we came into our relationship, our marriage, with the idea of marriage being something where you sacrifice, you're not in alignment, you don't speak your truth, you don't ask for what you want, you don't create something amazing. And so a lot of people go in with that thought, like, this will just work without work.

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I went into my previous marriage, I was married, and I kind of had that idea, if we just love each other, this will be fine, right? But then you get into the marriage and you're like, oh, this is a lot of work, a lot of checking in with myself, checking in with you, realigning our values.

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It's really, really good about the relationship you can have to money and the energetics of money. And it's been incredibly profound and transformative for me. I think when you think about becoming more profitable, there's so many different aspects of it related to your business.

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But if the foundational relationship you have to the energetics of money isn't there, you're never going to become more profitable. So getting your relationship right, the energetic frequency and the connection you have with money is going to be incredibly helpful. When I could finally meet money and respect and love money in the way that I do, I'm so grateful for the way money moves in my life.

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I'm so grateful for the way money gives me freedom, for the way money supports my health, for the way money supports my... family. I have so much respect and love for money. So money loves to work with me. Money loves to be around me. Money loves to hang out with me. Money loves to move through me. And once you can have that, you can really see how money can move more in your business.

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And so if you go into a business partnership without checking in on the relationship, checking in on the values, checking in on the direction of where you're going, you're it's not going to work. Something's going to happen. You're going to build up resentment and you're probably going to end up breaking up.

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It's so much as the hierarchy of money. Money means worth. Money means safety. Money means security. Money means you're bad. Like if we look at the media programming, a lot of the media programming, the villains are rich. So we have this idea that having money is bad. Jesus had no money.

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You know, like the gurus and the saints and the cultural leaders from a religious perspective were usually poor. So we have this embedded idea around money and the relationship to money in our lives. And I think so many of us have grown up with money is shameful. You don't talk about it. You don't talk about money. You don't talk about sex. You don't talk about religion.

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So not only are we not talking about it, but we're living in a society that's telling us that money is bad. But yet all the people at the top are figuring out ways to get money. So I think when we can really take our power back and have a beautiful relationship with money, money actually isn't anything. It's like paper.

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So we're actually placing all this energy and value and thought and meaning to paper. So how can we take the power back and be like, this is a tool for me to live my life in the way that I want. This is something I deserve. This is something that I can move through me energetically and become something that can be supportive of the life that I want.

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I think the most important thing that people need to look for in relationship for entrepreneurs is being able to communicate. Just like a marriage, the number one thing in relationship is communication. You need to be talking about how you're feeling, what's coming up for you, what you want, where you want to go, what works for you, what doesn't work for you.

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We talk about that in the book because, I mean, especially in your late 20s, like 60% of people have student debt. You start to make more money in your late 20s. You're changing jobs. Like a lot of people are getting married for the first time. They're having children. So there's so many different financial things that are happening to people during that time.

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So I think for me, the rebel part of me is always like, I just want to somehow take the power back from the system and like figure out how to... live my life outside of it, live my life freely. And it doesn't mean I'm buying a yacht or a private jet. It means I'm living in a way that feels luxurious and free to me. That feels expansive to me. And I want that for everyone.

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Like we all humans deserve that. And the more we can break outside of the systems that we're in and really see, first of all, our inherent worth for money, then money comes to us, like what you have already. Yeah.

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And we've really focused on our communication and communicating respectfully and with love and with intention. And that's been the biggest thing that's really kept us together.

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That's just my vibe. I feel like having a spiritual foundation or having a foundation of like an anchor point for my life has just been exponentially beneficial to all my relationships, to the way that I move, to what I prioritize, to what I want to create.

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And I feel like, you know, it might not be for everyone, but for me, it's been what's really given me abundance in ways that are not just financial, but spiritual and meaningful in my life.

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Were you always religious? So I grew up Catholic. I grew up in a small town in Ohio. And so it was very religious. It's very conservative. And I kind of lost my way. You know, I was like nihilistic for a while. I was like just figuring things out. And I kind of refound my faith in the past. couple years, probably five, six, seven years.

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And it doesn't mean that it's religiously attached or connotated. I wouldn't say that I'm attached to any religion, but it's something that feels like really perfect for my algorithm, perfect for my type of spirituality and the way that I move. But yeah, I grew up religious and had to re-find it.

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I think I had a rock bottom humbling event. I think Lindsay and I both had this moment of humbling. And then we also had an amazing coach that we worked with that brought God back into our life in a way that was very offering and helped us metabolize the idea of just sort of naming the creator.

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naming this infinite source of love and support and helping me re-approach God in a way where it wasn't a man in the sky that was punishing me or had this idea of how I should live or hated me if I did this and didn't like me if I did this.

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It was like, what if there was this benevolent co-creator of life that you had that loved you endlessly and that was there for you endlessly and that was just a guiding partner for everything that you do? And So there was a lot of my spiritual practice and process that kind of led to this. I had been done so much energy work.

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I had done so much study of different religions and spirituality through the podcast, but it was really that coach in a rock bottom moment that was like, you know what? I give up all of this to like one creator. And that's sort of how I'm going to build my foundation. I still do a lot of different spiritual tools and practices. I'm very open. But having the anchor is the most supportive for me.

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Actually, that's crazy because I've noticed that too. The people that I see at the level that I want to be, they're anchored. Because you could get blown in the wind. You could go fall for this, fall for that, fall for, like, there's a lot of things here that could pull you off of your path and your truth. And having just something where I'm like, okay, what am I working towards?

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Who am I working with? What are my guiding principles for how I want to live? And it just helped so much. Mm-hmm.

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Sure. Yeah. I mean, source energy works. Whatever works for people, that gets them anchored in there. For me, I just felt like God was presented as something that was not loving and was not the way that I wanted. And for me to be like, actually, it's not. That's the church. That's man. Got it. What you're talking about is man. My God is all loving. My God is all knowing. My God is with me.

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So it's like, oh, actually, I was kind of looking at it through this religious lens that I don't. Yes. And you had to unlearn that.

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Sorry, mom. My religion is. Sorry, mom.

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Yeah, I think getting clarity on that is really important for any business in general and for really any business partners, especially. For us, the way that we delegated roles happened naturally, but happened very early on. So my experience was in the corporate. I worked in finance management consulting, and I actually was doing some brand deals on the side as a blogger.

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And Lindsay was an actress. She worked at SoulCycle. She was an amazing performer. She knew a lot about production. She knew a lot about performance. She brought a lot to the table from... the aspects of the business of creativity that I didn't really have access to. So early on, I was like, I'm going to take on more of the business strategic part because that's where I was living before.

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Okay. And then Lindsay brought more of the creativity. So when we started building the business, it was like... both of us working together. And then we saw where we were fitting naturally and we claimed the domains. And over the years, we had to reclaim domains of where we are and where we work because we were trying to overlap for quite a bit. And that doesn't really support us.

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You know, it doesn't really help for us to both be two cooks in the kitchen. So I'm more strategy. I'm more of the partnerships. I'm more of the overall ideas that we have that move the business forward. And Lindsay is so helpful with the creativity. She's so helpful with the relationship with the team. She's a great communicator with the team.

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So there's just stuff that she's naturally good at that she brings to the business.

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I know, honestly. You know, I've been thinking about this.

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And I feel like it would only benefit the business, you know? You know, her succeeding or me succeeding is only benefits our business that we have together. But I think what's been really beautiful about the way that we've evolved is we've always been like sovereign. You know, I think early on, we were just doing everything together. We were so just embedded in one another.

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And we kind of had moments where we're like, okay, we are aware that this could be for a season. This could be for a time period in our life. We don't want to be so naive to think that we're going to want to be in business and financial business together for the rest of our lives. So investing in each other's businesses in that way, we have put money into things together.

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We have made investments in businesses together that are longstanding, but it's like, I don't think for me personally, it feels truthful for me to be embedded with one person forever financially or dreamily. wise, I just like to do a lot of things. I like to create a lot of different things. I like to be my own person. I never want to be boxed in anywhere.

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So that type of business model wouldn't really feel good for me. But Almost 30 has helped us as a foundation show us what we're good at and show us what our audience wants more of. For motherhood, obviously they're going to see her. She's an amazing mother. She's built an amazing family around that. So they want more from her in that. So she's like, okay, cool.

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Being an entrepreneur is not easy. The entrepreneur has a different type of mindset. The number one thing that you can remember and accept in life is that your friendships are going to change and that's okay.

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I'm noticing this thing that Almost 30 is providing for me. What can I do more of in that? For me, it's the coaching and retreats. How can I build more of this? And so it just allows us to be more robust of who we are and evolve in the business and pour more into the business because we're happier.

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You know, if you're kind of just looking to the business to feed and satisfy every one of your creative needs or pursuits, that doesn't feel true for me. I think having creativity spark and then going where it needs to go is what I like to do instead.

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You know, what's funny is we've been honest with each other about what life looks like past almost 30. But we've never had a moment where we fought or something happened where we wanted to throw in the towel. Like, yeah, we've always been very conscious about where this process is. And thankfully, we have a book coming out. So like,

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The book feels like such a beautiful rounding of the 10 years we've been doing this. It's like all of our life's work. So we've really trusted that. And I think it's normal to feel like quitting, but it's actually just weird. I think that's what happens for me when I'm expressing myself creatively in other aspects of my life.

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And I'm not holding this relationship to be the only thing that sustains me. It's just like romantic relationships. If she's supposed to be everything to me, if almost 30 is supposed to be everything to me, I'm not going to be satisfied. I need other things. I need other people. I need other creative outlets. And because we've both done that, we both feel satisfied.

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And we come back to the relationship excited to be here.

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Yeah, so we crossed paths at around 27. In our late 20s, we were going through it. The story goes that a mutual friend of ours introduced Krista and I because Krista wanted to audition for SoulCycle. SoulCycle was a very popular, trendy workout at the time. I was an instructor. And we got connected. And I remember the day we scheduled a FaceTime. Krista scheduled a FaceTime and said, you know,

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I want to audition for SoulCycle. I would love to just pick your brain, understand the process. And I was happy to do it. I was really loving my time at Soul. And just for anyone to want to do it, I was like, yeah, it's amazing. Let's do this. So when we had our FaceTime, I was like, she's cool. Like this felt natural. This felt like flow, you know, and that didn't happen for me.

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And so we stayed in touch. And through her process of auditioning, she didn't end up getting it, but it connected us. And then eventually she moved to LA where we could see more of each other and really understand on a deeper level what each other was going through. And it was a lot. We were having relationship reckonings. We were at war with our bodies in different ways.

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We were running ourselves into the ground. We were... individuating from our family and some of our friend groups that we no longer really felt aligned with. It was this upheaval that felt like everything was crumbling, to be honest with you. And a lot of people go through this in their late 20s. We wrote a book about it. It's no joke.

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And what we found in our friendship was this comfort and just this healing and being able to talk about it. And so Krista came to me one day. We were at Bulletproof Coffee, which is a cafe.

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That was one of my favorite spots. That unfortunately does not exist anymore. I know. And she was like, you know, I feel like we could start a podcast talking about the things that we've been talking about just on a daily basis. I was like, yeah, I'm so down. I've always been someone that if you bring me a creative project, I'm like, let's do it.

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And I never really think about if it's going to be a thing. If it lights me up, I'm down. Yeah. So we started recording on our closet floors, sometimes in Krista's studio apartment in Venice, next to like laundry and whatever. And there was no, was there a light in there? There was no oxygen. I know that.

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Yeah, dude. It was crazy.

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And just like talk. It was not perfect. It was not organized. It was very just... It was a mess, but it felt so right. We were just moving. We were being moved by the experience itself. So if we had waited, we had waited to start until we got a studio and had the business all set up and the strategy right, we would have never started. And so as we took action, that moved us.

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We were like, oh, this feels good. Or, oh, this doesn't feel good. Then we took another step. So it was really imperative that we started before we were ready because we got so much intel. And in 2016, September 2016, we launched the podcast.

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It is very different than it is today, but that's the story of things.

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We had two seasons of cartoons.

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The one was like creepy. Yeah. One was like alien.

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I don't even know.

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Those were real innovative.

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Your cartoon was probably so cute.

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Yes.

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For two years, we juggled our full-time jobs with building Almost 30. And in the beginning, Krista had these existing relationships with brands because of her blog, which was amazing and really taught us how to build a working relationship with a brand and really make it personal. And I don't think that exists as much in podcasting anymore.

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But it was a beautiful time where we could talk to a brand and say, what are your goals? You know, how can we help you with your goals and really make it collaborative? And so after two years of being in that flow, we were able to sustain ourselves. It was scary, definitely, to quit. I think you quit in June. I quit in December. Mm-hmm. So six months later, I quit and we had a team to sustain.

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Like these are things that we definitely had to plan for. And we would tell any anyone who's building a business on the side that not to take the leap, not to just do it without understanding the financial consequences or the risk.

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Because if you are focused on surviving and like making money to support your team or the resources, then you're probably not going to be creating in a way that feels really in flow or aligned because you're coming from that place of fear.

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So it was important for us.

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We started recording on our closet floors. It was not perfect. It was not organized. It was a mess, but it felt so right. So if we had waited to start until we got a studio, had the business all set up and the strategy right, like we would have never started.

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I think we've aligned this community because we were able to be so open from the get. You know, we were ourselves, probably to a fault if you listen back to old episodes. But I don't think a lot of people were doing that back then in the podcasting space and especially speaking to women our age. We were just going through so much and feeling alone.

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You know, I think we were speaking to that experience. We were speaking to the highs and the lows and to give them the resources and the confidence to take the next step forward, I think was probably more powerful than we could ever truly comprehend. And what we found was that our ability to be more than a podcast was very important in our growth. So what that looked like was...

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Hosting events early on and saying, hey, we're going to be hosting an event at the SoulCycle in Santa Monica. We want all of our listeners in the local area to come. We would sell it out. We would hang out afterwards. And slowly but surely, this in-person effect started. we started to understand the power of it. We were able to hear their stories. We were able to hug them.

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We were able to really understand the impact of the show and that would then influence the show. So they've always been a part of our success and not in that literal sense of, yeah, they're our listeners. They're the numbers. But it's more so they've influenced the type of content that we create. They influence... our next decision and what we want to provide for them. So they have been integral.

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And I think they feel that. I think they feel that in the way that we talk to them on the show, in our content.

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Yeah, I mean, it's the most common question that we get. At least I think.

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So we have to laugh.

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You did? Yeah.

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I think we obviously did not think about it when we named the show that it would be as successful as it is and live the life that it's lived. But like you, we've just thought about it as this is such a metaphor. You know, we're all almost something. And that period of being almost 30 is a foundational time to just build your relationship with change in a really healthy way. So...

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You don't have to be almost 30 to listen to Almost 30. But I think it is such a potent time that I hope that, especially in talking about the book now, like people will think about that time, even if they've already been through it. Yeah. And see it as such an impactful reckoning in the grand scheme of their life. But yeah, we've had moments where we're like, should we rename it?

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Should we totally rebrand it?

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I think it's both. Yeah. You know, I think especially with the book, we're going to get that influx of like kind of new actual almost 30s people going through that time. But people have grown with us. I mean, we hear all the time. I've been with you since the beginning. And they've been through so much with us. So it's both.

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yeah so when we learned about this i mean it unlocked everything we were like wait actually what we were going through that and everyone does so the saturn return is an astrological transit that happens for everyone where saturn comes back to the place in your chart it was when you were born and saturn is the planet think of it as like the dad comes in and is like yo This is not working.

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This is not aligned. We got to look at this. We have to be truthful and honest about this and make changes. And it can feel like your life is falling apart. It can feel like everything you've known to be true is actually coming up for questioning in a really big way.

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So whether it's your career, your relationships, your relationship with yourself, where you want to live, what you want to do, what your purpose is, it's a very existential crisis type season. But it is also probably your greatest opportunity yet in your life to get to know yourself in a way that will be a foundation for the rest of your life.

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So for Krista and I, we had themes of relationships come up where I was going through a really intense breakup and I thought I was going to marry this person. I thought I would be married by the time I was 27, have kids by the time I was 29, and then we'd walk off into the sunset, whatever. Mm-hmm. And that didn't happen. I was like, wait, so now what? You know, who am I then?

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Who am I without him? Who am I if this isn't the plan? But I think what Saturn has the opportunity to show you is that, yeah, we can have a plan based on how we grew up and all the things. But there is a much more expansive plan.

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plan and life for you if you lean into the unknown so you know it's a practice it's a practice to be able to have faith in something that you don't know what the next step is but i think saturn will really teach you that that is the way you know that is truly the way

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When you're in business with your best friend, especially, there's so many layers to the dynamic. And in a marriage, as you know, when you get married, you share finances, you share just deep growth and learning in all aspects of your life. And when you become entrepreneurs as best friends...

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And I think in the Saturn return period, for those friendships that are for that lifetime vibe, they require that love. date, you know, because you're kind of working on like old patterns, you're working on old everything. And so if you feel like you're changing, most likely your friend is changing too, but you both are holding on to how the friendship has always been.

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So I think with the select few in my life, I've had to just have like a come to Jesus moment of like, hey, this is actually what's important to me right now, or this is what I have capacity for. Because sometimes, for example, in friendships, you don't see each other. I as much maybe because you've gotten married or maybe you've moved, maybe you don't touch base as often.

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And we can make so much meaning out of that. And so if you have a conversation where it's like, listen, I would love for when we connect, it's just really quality and we're able to be really present.

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I think that is super, super important because I don't know about you, but anytime I would change within a romantic relationship, my then boyfriend would be like, man, you've changed, you know, would have such a problem with change. And then with friendships, I always felt like, oh gosh, I can't change because then they're going to feel a type of way.

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So I'm just giving people permission to change within their relationships and have actual conversations about it.

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Yeah.

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I think that rumbling happens for a lot of people where like you are at a job that you've been at for a while. Maybe most likely you're really good at what you do. You get rewarded for that. You are maybe on a path where you have an upward trajectory, but there's something within you that just says,

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I think there's something more and I think I want to pursue something else or, you know, something else does light me up and I would love to see what would happen. And so I think, first of all, you have to get really clear about that. Is there an opportunity to pivot within the actual company that you're in? Because it's maybe just a feeling of what you're doing. Is it no longer aligned?

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Is there another position at the company? Yeah. If it's a bit more than that and you actually want to pursue something else, which we both have done many times over, I think it's getting clear about how do I want to feel on a day-to-day basis? What really lights me up?

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Asking those questions about the feeling part of it, logistics will come in, but I had to get clear that what was moving me in that direction came from like this place rather than the overanalyzing of everything, if that makes sense. Yeah. So when I pivoted, for example, from pursuing my acting career to the podcast, I had to make a conscious pivot. I could no longer do both.

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And I think for me, the question was, how do you want to feel on a day-to-day basis? And I wanted to feel like I was creating. I was creating myself. literally something, but also my future. And with acting, I was waiting to be chosen. So it made it so clear that that pivot was right for me to completely let go of the acting and pursue the podcast full-time and let that go.

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You start to share finances, first and foremost, and then you get into the deep work of becoming confident, successful entrepreneurs, which requires you to really look at every aspect of yourself and every aspect of how you are in relationship. So Krista and I have been through therapy. Oh, my gosh. Through coaching.

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To be honest, when we first started, I was so insecure about it because I didn't have a corporate background. I came from being my own, I suppose, entrepreneur in my acting life where even though I was waiting to be chosen, I was having to self-motivate every day to go on auditions, to meet agents, meet casting directors. So I had that experience within me as far as entrepreneurship goes.

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But when it came to the business side, I just felt so insecure. But I think what I realized was that as an entrepreneur, you're meant to really double down on your gifts, you know, and you will learn everything else along the way. You know, I've learned so much about business and just doing it and making mistakes and learning from Krista.

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So it's been really important for me to acknowledge the insecurities around what I don't know. Mm-hmm. But actually that's not where my focus is meant to go.

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You know, my focus is meant to double down on what I'm really good at and really step in there because especially in a partnership, you know, we've come together so well like a puzzle where like my strengths are something that fit perfectly in the puzzle. And then Krista fills in her strengths where I'm kind of like lacking. So it's been really, really beautiful.

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But entrepreneurship has given me just a lot of confidence in every aspect of my life. You know, I think when I think about, starting over in any way, I think about almost 30. I just always reference that experience of just building something from nothing, building it from an idea. And I'm like, oh yeah, I can do this.

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It really adds to that well of confidence that you have for the rest of your life. I love that.

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We have had really, really hard conversations about finances, about our vision for the future, about what's working and what's not working.

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Yeah, I think, I mean, your business that you start will be your mirror. And so it's, I think, imperative from the get to understand that this will bring up a lot about you. and what you are bringing to the table. And so for me, it's about having a therapist, you know, having like resources and tools so that I can come to each moment as aware and as conscious as possible.

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And so there have been many times where like the lines are blurred. I'm like, I kind of want to be more of your friend right now. Yeah. But we're in a business conversation and vice versa. So it's been something we always have to actively participate in and actively work on.

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It's not always going to be perfect, but how you do one thing is how you do everything. And I think with a business... For me, it was showing me where I could really step into my worth. It was showing me, you know, how I could become a better communicator in all aspects of my life. So I think to be prepared for that and maybe even set yourself up by having a coach or a therapist from the get.

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I know it's an investment, but it's the most worthwhile investment I've ever made and helps me both in business and personal. Yeah, it's a good one.

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Wow. People are great. Sometimes they're like, wow. Yeah. we're doing that. You know, I do that, of course. I'm doing stuff like that, but it's like beauty. It's good health.

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And I think so many people take what they learned or did not learn when they were younger from their parents. and use it as like an excuse not to rewrite their relationship with money. So it's like, my parents never taught me about, this is something I've done. My parents never taught me about balancing my checkbook or like how to manage money or how to invest or how to work with a credit card.

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Like never, none of that. And there was always stress around money. There was always fights were started over money. always. So I really had this stiff arm approach to money where I'm like, money's over here. I don't really want to look at it. I don't really want to talk about it. I've had very, very abundant times in my life. And usually that's because I am not connecting money to my worth.

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And I am just living in a way that's like incredibly aligned. I'm using my gifts. And that's usually when I have a lot of money coming in. But any period of time where I've

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literally held money as i'm going to feel okay today if i have this amount in my bank account it's evaded me at all costs so it's just really interesting like krista said the relationship with money on an energetic level i think is important but also looking at where did your money story come from yeah you know just being really honest about it and knowing that you can rewrite it

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Right now, in this moment, you can start rewriting it. You don't have the like scarlet letter on you for the rest of your life. You can absolutely rewrite this. And I think for me, it helped to understand why my parents had the beliefs that they did. I just had more compassion. I didn't have as much resentment towards them.

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So, yeah, I just think it's so important that we kind of detangle that before we rewrite the myth.

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Oh boy. I think it's about relationships. So in terms of your audience, your customer, like how can you become even more human with them, even more connected to them? And oftentimes that means vulnerability from you as the founder, more vulnerability in the intention or the process and creating the product.

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It could come in different forms, but I think that vulnerable storytelling and that honesty is something that differentiates you and I think really makes people buy in. You know, they want to support a brand or a product that has a story. I do. I just think in this day and age, there's so many things that we can buy. There's so many things we can invest in.

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And it's like, at a point, it just kind of hurts. You're just like, okay, there's just so much stuff. But when I find a brand where the story is just so impactful and so moving, I'm like, I want to support that. Let me put my dollars there. So I think bringing in more storytelling about your story or just the path of creating this product, I think could be really, really profound.

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Yeah, I have to second it. I'll be boring inside me too. It's been, I had obviously a similar experience with Krista with our coach, but my now husband also came into my life around that same time, a little bit after. And

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He's also brought that aspect of faith into my life and to be able to connect so intimately on faith with someone that you love in that way was something I've never experienced and just opens up this whole realm of possibility when it comes to faith. Yeah, just being a human on earth. It's like we don't have to shoulder everything. I think that's what I saw growing up.

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I saw my parents shouldering everything. Even though my mom was spiritual, they just shouldered so much. And now it's just my greatest joy to be able to just give things up to God and just be like, I trust you. I don't know what's next, but I trust you. And thank you. And yeah, there's just this experience of gratitude in my life now that I feel so much more than I ever have before.

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And I think that's been the fuel because even when things are hard and I'm like, man, this is like a really hard season. I'm always just like, but I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. Yeah. For this pruning season, this, I know you're working on me and I trust it.

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And so, yeah, I think for me, someone who does take on a lot and can overanalyze things, it's been the greatest gift to just be like, God, I totally trust you.

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And it can look like the way you want it to look. You know, I think we think of, and honestly, let's just say we name God in the book. We say God. And we say like... Yes. Yes. Yes.

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I know, literally. Literally.

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Yeah, we coined this phrase called clearing conversations. So this practice where there's usually something funky in the air. We're kind of feeling like something is off.

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And we will schedule a walk and a walk because I think sitting down across from each other, staring into each other's eyes can be very intense and kind of activate the body in a way that doesn't really support honesty and flow in a conversation. So oftentimes we'll go on a walk. We're moving our bodies.

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We're next to each other and we're able to look at each other, but also like give each other a break. Yeah. And our intention in these clearing conversations is to bring truth and respect, to be a great listener and really have it be an experience of us against the problem rather than Chris does the issue. We got to get to the bottom of it. And that's really helped us because we all have egos.

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It's a thing.

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And so when you approach a problem, it's easy to be like, you know, you did this to me and you made me feel this way. But in these clearing conversations, we are very intentional to use I statements. The story I'm telling myself is that you don't care about this part of the business and I have to take it all on by myself.

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And in sharing these I statements, I'm able to see under the hood of like, what's been turning in Krista's mind. And then I'm able to say, oh, wow, if I believe that I would be feeling that way too. And it just gives us an opportunity to not only share our experience, but then to listen.

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You know, I think both of us are really great listeners and we listen with our heart rather than our minds thinking of what to say next. So the clearing conversation I think is essential for any friendship, any business partnership, any marriage as a standard in a relationship.

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Well, I think what's so interesting, you know, when we started Almost 30, we were going through a very specific time in our life and the show has evolved as we have evolved. And I think with that evolution too comes our own very unique gifts and how they want to be expressed in the world.

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So Krista has an incredibly successful coaching business, retreat business, and so many of her gifts that could not be truly fully expressed in almost 30, are now being expressed through those businesses. And I'm exploring this new season of my life of motherhood and what that might look like in a community and brand sense. So thankfully, we've always just been very, very supportive of the other.

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I think where the conversation comes in between us is, okay, we're in a season right now, currently in real time of being very full on with book and almost 30. And candidly, I don't have a lot of energy to pour into new mom on the block or anything like that. And so we've had moments where we're like, okay, we're deciding to be full on.

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We're going to kind of pull back on our other things a little bit and just really be focused here. And I think that's important and important to share what's tough about this. So what you're struggling with in your own lanes of your own business. Yeah. Because I think we can create stories in our heads about, do they want to like go pursue that fully?

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And like, what's going to happen with almost 30? Or, you know, there's just a lot of stories we can create or meaning that we can make out of something that is not really true. So again, it all comes back to that communication.