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Well, but just to build on what John is talking about, it's a style question.

Can you get the same results without using words like calling leaders weak or their economies decaying, right?

Is it necessary to provoke the visceral feeling that we feel among a lot of leaders here and in conversations with international investors?

I mean, is there any other way?

Is that style...

more harmful than it is helpful?

Mr. Secretary, in fairness, you've seen from the airplanes, you've seen about a 30% decline in Canadian visitors to the United States, if not significantly more.

You've seen a similar type of decline from China.

European travelers inbound have come down.

There is a sense that people do not want to come to the culture of the U.S., and there is this anger about it.

I just wonder if you think that that's just temporary, or you just sort of dismiss that, or you think it's irrelevant to the actual issues.

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