Lisa Ann

Like Myron and his girlfriend.

Like that scene right there, I was like, oh, this is going to play out very differently, which it did.

But him sitting in that room during the Whatever podcast gave me a different insight of it.

Instead of feeling so bad for the girls every time I see a clip come on my feed, I realize, oh, they're doing this by choice because they also want the clicks.

And it's a weird space.

I'm kind of...

In this limbo of somebody who turns 54 in May.

So I was born in 1972.

So the two lives that I've gotten to be a part of are the pre-internet, the post-internet.

And so for me, I have to sometimes take a little bit more time to understand why would a girl expose herself like that?

And I'm like, oh, they want the traffic.

Like, I'd rather have less traffic than do things that would make me horribly uncomfortable.

And then they're going to make money on their OF or whatever.

Either a guy's going to feel bad for them or a guy's going to do it.

It's a strange space.

But again, I don't have to like or dislike it.

I'm just learning about it.

And that's the smart thing about Clav.

He keeps his cameras going no matter what.

People don't know it or they don't like it, but it doesn't matter.