Lisa Hagan

Well, there were about 200 attendees. This was the second ever natal con. The first one was held two years ago and it was half the size. Still a pretty small conference. And I think what's interesting. interesting about it is that there were a lot of different kinds of messages. The tone had also shifted quite a bit from the first iteration of the conference.

Well, there were about 200 attendees. This was the second ever natal con. The first one was held two years ago and it was half the size. Still a pretty small conference. And I think what's interesting. interesting about it is that there were a lot of different kinds of messages. The tone had also shifted quite a bit from the first iteration of the conference.

Well, there were about 200 attendees. This was the second ever natal con. The first one was held two years ago and it was half the size. Still a pretty small conference. And I think what's interesting. interesting about it is that there were a lot of different kinds of messages. The tone had also shifted quite a bit from the first iteration of the conference.

So you heard everything from people saying, you know, we should have a child tax credit increase to, you know, our enemies are the enemies of humanity and that sort of language.

So you heard everything from people saying, you know, we should have a child tax credit increase to, you know, our enemies are the enemies of humanity and that sort of language.

So you heard everything from people saying, you know, we should have a child tax credit increase to, you know, our enemies are the enemies of humanity and that sort of language.

Oh, 95% men, absolutely. 95% men? Yeah. Yes. So another interesting thing to note there, right, is like some there were supposed to be some women speakers. They have lots of kids. So some of them, their kids got sick or child care, like whatever. Right. Things fall through. I think there are some natural ways in which it ends up being a lot of dudes who are talking about this.

Oh, 95% men, absolutely. 95% men? Yeah. Yes. So another interesting thing to note there, right, is like some there were supposed to be some women speakers. They have lots of kids. So some of them, their kids got sick or child care, like whatever. Right. Things fall through. I think there are some natural ways in which it ends up being a lot of dudes who are talking about this.

Oh, 95% men, absolutely. 95% men? Yeah. Yes. So another interesting thing to note there, right, is like some there were supposed to be some women speakers. They have lots of kids. So some of them, their kids got sick or child care, like whatever. Right. Things fall through. I think there are some natural ways in which it ends up being a lot of dudes who are talking about this.

The other thing is this was a very, very white crowd. And I say that as someone who's been in a lot of sort of right wing spaces. They're not always this white. There weren't no people of color there, but it's just important to sort of say that about who was gathered there.

The other thing is this was a very, very white crowd. And I say that as someone who's been in a lot of sort of right wing spaces. They're not always this white. There weren't no people of color there, but it's just important to sort of say that about who was gathered there.

The other thing is this was a very, very white crowd. And I say that as someone who's been in a lot of sort of right wing spaces. They're not always this white. There weren't no people of color there, but it's just important to sort of say that about who was gathered there.

You know, NatalCon is a bit of a, I would say, pie-in-the-sky kind of gathering. It's very open to a lot of ideas that would take a lot of political change to actually bring into being, like parental voting, for instance. You know, having parents vote on behalf of their minor children. That was suggested, I don't know... I think that would be very hard to bring about.

You know, NatalCon is a bit of a, I would say, pie-in-the-sky kind of gathering. It's very open to a lot of ideas that would take a lot of political change to actually bring into being, like parental voting, for instance. You know, having parents vote on behalf of their minor children. That was suggested, I don't know... I think that would be very hard to bring about.

You know, NatalCon is a bit of a, I would say, pie-in-the-sky kind of gathering. It's very open to a lot of ideas that would take a lot of political change to actually bring into being, like parental voting, for instance. You know, having parents vote on behalf of their minor children. That was suggested, I don't know... I think that would be very hard to bring about.

You know, you hear things about like the child tax credit or getting rid of no-fault divorce. But what I would say I think is the through line always is that there's something off about culture and that culture specifically needs to change. and that mainstream culture has devalued motherhood, those kinds of arguments.

You know, you hear things about like the child tax credit or getting rid of no-fault divorce. But what I would say I think is the through line always is that there's something off about culture and that culture specifically needs to change. and that mainstream culture has devalued motherhood, those kinds of arguments.

You know, you hear things about like the child tax credit or getting rid of no-fault divorce. But what I would say I think is the through line always is that there's something off about culture and that culture specifically needs to change. and that mainstream culture has devalued motherhood, those kinds of arguments.

So that's sort of one of the bigger things that you'll hear a lot about how culture needs to change. I mean, you also will hear sort of traditionalist religious arguments like people need to stop having abortions or pornography should be banned or we need to rein in technology so that young people are looking less at their phones and more focused on having babies. I mean, I think it's a lot of

So that's sort of one of the bigger things that you'll hear a lot about how culture needs to change. I mean, you also will hear sort of traditionalist religious arguments like people need to stop having abortions or pornography should be banned or we need to rein in technology so that young people are looking less at their phones and more focused on having babies. I mean, I think it's a lot of