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Lisa Hagan

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Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So that's sort of one of the bigger things that you'll hear a lot about how culture needs to change. I mean, you also will hear sort of traditionalist religious arguments like people need to stop having abortions or pornography should be banned or we need to rein in technology so that young people are looking less at their phones and more focused on having babies. I mean, I think it's a lot of

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

more generalized stuff about culture needing to change.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

more generalized stuff about culture needing to change.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

more generalized stuff about culture needing to change.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

The first time I heard of the Collinses, and I think this was a moment that maybe anyone who's heard of them possibly saw, is there was an article that sort of named them the elite couple breeding to save mankind. which is a great headline. And, you know, they have a very specific visual appearance. Simone Collins wears very chunky, memorable glasses. She dresses in a specific way.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

The first time I heard of the Collinses, and I think this was a moment that maybe anyone who's heard of them possibly saw, is there was an article that sort of named them the elite couple breeding to save mankind. which is a great headline. And, you know, they have a very specific visual appearance. Simone Collins wears very chunky, memorable glasses. She dresses in a specific way.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

The first time I heard of the Collinses, and I think this was a moment that maybe anyone who's heard of them possibly saw, is there was an article that sort of named them the elite couple breeding to save mankind. which is a great headline. And, you know, they have a very specific visual appearance. Simone Collins wears very chunky, memorable glasses. She dresses in a specific way.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Sort of, but like from Etsy, as she will tell you. They are very open about having designed their look and their appeal to draw attention. They have four children now. They have another one on the way. They plan to have as many as possible. And Simone has said that she is willing to die in childbirth to have as many kids as possible and sort of, you know, advance this movement.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Sort of, but like from Etsy, as she will tell you. They are very open about having designed their look and their appeal to draw attention. They have four children now. They have another one on the way. They plan to have as many as possible. And Simone has said that she is willing to die in childbirth to have as many kids as possible and sort of, you know, advance this movement.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Sort of, but like from Etsy, as she will tell you. They are very open about having designed their look and their appeal to draw attention. They have four children now. They have another one on the way. They plan to have as many as possible. And Simone has said that she is willing to die in childbirth to have as many kids as possible and sort of, you know, advance this movement.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

You know, my understanding with the Collinses is that everything they do is sort of calculated to have some public impact and seem pretty interesting to people. Yeah, they've optimized their image to kind of go viral online, right? To gain attention. Absolutely. That's exactly right. They have a YouTube show and podcast called Based Camp.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

You know, my understanding with the Collinses is that everything they do is sort of calculated to have some public impact and seem pretty interesting to people. Yeah, they've optimized their image to kind of go viral online, right? To gain attention. Absolutely. That's exactly right. They have a YouTube show and podcast called Based Camp.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

You know, my understanding with the Collinses is that everything they do is sort of calculated to have some public impact and seem pretty interesting to people. Yeah, they've optimized their image to kind of go viral online, right? To gain attention. Absolutely. That's exactly right. They have a YouTube show and podcast called Based Camp.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They, you know, to a lot of mainstream media, they sort of try to present themselves as... maybe not on the left or liberal necessarily, but not classically conservative. And they talk a lot about wanting, you know, to preserve cultures that are open to LGBTQ folks and racial diversity and that sort of thing. On their podcasts, they sound a lot like a lot of right-wing influencer types.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They, you know, to a lot of mainstream media, they sort of try to present themselves as... maybe not on the left or liberal necessarily, but not classically conservative. And they talk a lot about wanting, you know, to preserve cultures that are open to LGBTQ folks and racial diversity and that sort of thing. On their podcasts, they sound a lot like a lot of right-wing influencer types.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They, you know, to a lot of mainstream media, they sort of try to present themselves as... maybe not on the left or liberal necessarily, but not classically conservative. And they talk a lot about wanting, you know, to preserve cultures that are open to LGBTQ folks and racial diversity and that sort of thing. On their podcasts, they sound a lot like a lot of right-wing influencer types.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They talk about something called the urban monoculture, which Malcolm Collins has defined as, you know, being woke or just liberal culture in general. And he basically says that that's like cultural genocide. It only survives by creating popular culture. And parasitizing children from other more healthy cultural groups.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They talk about something called the urban monoculture, which Malcolm Collins has defined as, you know, being woke or just liberal culture in general. And he basically says that that's like cultural genocide. It only survives by creating popular culture. And parasitizing children from other more healthy cultural groups.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They talk about something called the urban monoculture, which Malcolm Collins has defined as, you know, being woke or just liberal culture in general. And he basically says that that's like cultural genocide. It only survives by creating popular culture. And parasitizing children from other more healthy cultural groups.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And what the Collinses are talking about with urban monoculture is, you know, you may want to raise your children and your family in a certain way, but modern mainstream society is going to try to pull them away from you in ways that you hate. And that's what they mean by sort of parasitizing, like stealing children, essentially.