Lisa O’Carroll

Yeah, but if you said, oh, Henry VIII powers or statutory instruments, people would just glaze over.

And I think the problem for the Labour Party is that the reset that they cast at the summit with the EU last May in Lancaster House is a laundry list of small things.

Erasmus, youth mobility, this food and farm thing, energy, carbon emissions.

Where's the big thing that people can go, yay, as you said, queues at the airport.

But that's free movement.

That goes back to free movement.

And we're not going to get free movement unless the UK goes back into the single market.

Yeah, that's the Labour argument that it would mean cheaper prices in the supermarket.

But prices have gone up so much and the Iran war has pushed them up again.

So what kind of differential would be needed to be caused by the reduction in barriers at Dover?

You know, it would have to be 20% at least.

It's not going to happen, is it?

I'm sceptical.

that there will be a noticeable change in prices in the supermarket because something else will come along.

Trump will do something else that will push the prices up for a different reason.

But for exporters, what's interesting is the figure generally is that 16,000 to 20,000 British businesses have stopped exporting or stopped exporting because of Brexit.

It's a lot, isn't it?

Yeah, and it's mostly the small...

the small to medium sized businesses, the lifeblood of communities up and down the country that have had to recast their businesses because of Brexit.

But there is always a but.