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Lisa Olson

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112 total appearances

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Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

What was the problem was to get him to talk about what I wanted him to talk about. And, um, Ed spent a lot of time talking about his life, about, you know, growing up. He was a proud Aggie. He had gone to Texas A&M, been in the marching band. He was all excited to talk about that.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

What was the problem was to get him to talk about what I wanted him to talk about. And, um, Ed spent a lot of time talking about his life, about, you know, growing up. He was a proud Aggie. He had gone to Texas A&M, been in the marching band. He was all excited to talk about that.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

Um, and then he would talk about how women wanted him, you know, sexually, um, which is kind of a weird thing for me as a woman interviewing him. But, um, You know, you just sort of listen. You try not to react. So eventually I get to his ears in Galveston. I ask him about running a dive shop in Galveston, which I knew he ran.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

Um, and then he would talk about how women wanted him, you know, sexually, um, which is kind of a weird thing for me as a woman interviewing him. But, um, You know, you just sort of listen. You try not to react. So eventually I get to his ears in Galveston. I ask him about running a dive shop in Galveston, which I knew he ran.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

So that would have been a place where he really very likely would have met these girls.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

So that would have been a place where he really very likely would have met these girls.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

I had about, say, five minutes left when he started to tell me that, yes, he had killed a bunch of girls in Galveston and that he thought there were 10 or 11 when he was living in Galveston and in the Dickinson area. But he said, I don't want to tell you in prison because they're always listening and watching me. I think I'll send you a letter with their names.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

I had about, say, five minutes left when he started to tell me that, yes, he had killed a bunch of girls in Galveston and that he thought there were 10 or 11 when he was living in Galveston and in the Dickinson area. But he said, I don't want to tell you in prison because they're always listening and watching me. I think I'll send you a letter with their names.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

So in the prison interview, I said, well, do you know their names? And he said, yes, I know most of their names. And I said, well, you know, can you give me at least their initials? And so in the first interview, he gave me a couple of initials of girls, and he said 10 or 11. And then he said, I will write you with more details later. And I thought, well, he may or may not, right?

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

So in the prison interview, I said, well, do you know their names? And he said, yes, I know most of their names. And I said, well, you know, can you give me at least their initials? And so in the first interview, he gave me a couple of initials of girls, and he said 10 or 11. And then he said, I will write you with more details later. And I thought, well, he may or may not, right?

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

It was an accomplishment that he was excited to talk about. At that point, Ed Bell was not someone who had been interviewed. Ed Bell's murder of Larry Dickens had been an infamous murder at the time. But Ed Bell had, by the time I met him, he had been in prison for almost 20 years. He'd been in prison from the 90s to 2011, hadn't had too many people to talk to.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

It was an accomplishment that he was excited to talk about. At that point, Ed Bell was not someone who had been interviewed. Ed Bell's murder of Larry Dickens had been an infamous murder at the time. But Ed Bell had, by the time I met him, he had been in prison for almost 20 years. He'd been in prison from the 90s to 2011, hadn't had too many people to talk to.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

So he was at that point excited about someone visiting him. And so that's, I think, why he ended up writing me and in fact, sending me down what was then a multi-year effort to try to figure out if Bell really was a serial killer as he said he was, or if he was just a big liar.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

So he was at that point excited about someone visiting him. And so that's, I think, why he ended up writing me and in fact, sending me down what was then a multi-year effort to try to figure out if Bell really was a serial killer as he said he was, or if he was just a big liar.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

We started with the ones that he most solidly identified, the ones where he gave names or where he gave the dates. He talked about Colette Anise Wilson. He used her middle name for some reason in Alvin in 1971, which actually that predated the other murders. So if that was true, That would have been his first murder.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

We started with the ones that he most solidly identified, the ones where he gave names or where he gave the dates. He talked about Colette Anise Wilson. He used her middle name for some reason in Alvin in 1971, which actually that predated the other murders. So if that was true, That would have been his first murder.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

Her family and even police had developed another theory about a different killer. And there was a man prosecuted for Colette Wilson's murder. Now, did Ed really kill her? It could be.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

Her family and even police had developed another theory about a different killer. And there was a man prosecuted for Colette Wilson's murder. Now, did Ed really kill her? It could be.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

We knew that at the same time Colette and Ace Wilson's body was found, that another girl named Gloria Gonzalez, who was kidnapped in Houston, her bones were found mixed with Colette Wilson's. So if he was telling the truth about Colette Wilson... he most likely killed Gloria Gonzalez, whose bones were found there.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 1

We knew that at the same time Colette and Ace Wilson's body was found, that another girl named Gloria Gonzalez, who was kidnapped in Houston, her bones were found mixed with Colette Wilson's. So if he was telling the truth about Colette Wilson... he most likely killed Gloria Gonzalez, whose bones were found there.