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Lise Olsen

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Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

In fact, his trailer sat just a couple of miles from where Maria and Debbie were recovered in 1971.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

In fact, his trailer sat just a couple of miles from where Maria and Debbie were recovered in 1971.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

That plot of land is also a short drive to where Brooks and Georgia were last seen. Fred estimates the caboose was about three miles from the El Rancho Motel. As Lisa points out in The Eleven, the girls disappeared in the middle of the day. She theorizes that whoever abducted the girls had a private spot he could take them to, probably somewhere close and remote.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

That plot of land is also a short drive to where Brooks and Georgia were last seen. Fred estimates the caboose was about three miles from the El Rancho Motel. As Lisa points out in The Eleven, the girls disappeared in the middle of the day. She theorizes that whoever abducted the girls had a private spot he could take them to, probably somewhere close and remote.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

There are other places that link Bell to these cases, too. In 1971, Bell also had an apartment in Galveston, right on Offutt's Bayou. It was conveniently close to Doug's surf shop, where Bell sometimes worked and potentially saw some of these girls.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

There are other places that link Bell to these cases, too. In 1971, Bell also had an apartment in Galveston, right on Offutt's Bayou. It was conveniently close to Doug's surf shop, where Bell sometimes worked and potentially saw some of these girls.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

It was also right across the water from Wick's ski school, where Debbie and Maria stopped the day before their disappearance, and where Renee and Sharon stopped the morning they went missing. Then there are Bell's vehicles.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

It was also right across the water from Wick's ski school, where Debbie and Maria stopped the day before their disappearance, and where Renee and Sharon stopped the morning they went missing. Then there are Bell's vehicles.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

And in 1972, Bell was arrested for exposing himself to a minor. The arrest record shows that he was driving a white van. From what we know, it matched the description of the van Debbie and Maria got into. Bell had the van repainted. It later caught fire. With so many dots begging to be connected, Lisa goes back to interview Bell in prison for a second time. He admitted...

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

And in 1972, Bell was arrested for exposing himself to a minor. The arrest record shows that he was driving a white van. From what we know, it matched the description of the van Debbie and Maria got into. Bell had the van repainted. It later caught fire. With so many dots begging to be connected, Lisa goes back to interview Bell in prison for a second time. He admitted...

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

He even names the ice cream shop where he picked them up, but he doesn't tell Lisa he killed them. He says he just dropped them off and went to work. Then he tells Lisa he made up most of his claims to her. He calls the 11 who went to heaven a, quote, BS poem.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

He even names the ice cream shop where he picked them up, but he doesn't tell Lisa he killed them. He says he just dropped them off and went to work. Then he tells Lisa he made up most of his claims to her. He calls the 11 who went to heaven a, quote, BS poem.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

Bell never does get paroled. He dies in prison in 2019. The thing is, there's not a lot of forensic evidence left from these cases. One item, saved from Brenda Jones's case, was tested for DNA, but there wasn't a large enough sample to create a DNA profile.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

Bell never does get paroled. He dies in prison in 2019. The thing is, there's not a lot of forensic evidence left from these cases. One item, saved from Brenda Jones's case, was tested for DNA, but there wasn't a large enough sample to create a DNA profile.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

With compelling ties to six victims, what does that mean for the rest of Bell's claims? The other five victims? The program? We asked Lisa for her thoughts, and we weren't expecting her answer.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

With compelling ties to six victims, what does that mean for the rest of Bell's claims? The other five victims? The program? We asked Lisa for her thoughts, and we weren't expecting her answer.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

The CIA has even admitted to backing some of these experiments under Project Artichoke, which gave way to MKUltra. They have since stated their intent was to study things like, quote, mind control and, quote, behavioral modification. What Lisa's saying here is the program might not be exactly how Bell described it, but on some level, it could have been real.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

The CIA has even admitted to backing some of these experiments under Project Artichoke, which gave way to MKUltra. They have since stated their intent was to study things like, quote, mind control and, quote, behavioral modification. What Lisa's saying here is the program might not be exactly how Bell described it, but on some level, it could have been real.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

After years spent investigating this case, Lisa can't simply rule it out. Lisa also learned that Bell's father, who Bell claimed was in on the program, was with him in Panama while Bell was on the lam throughout the 80s. He died there during the Manuel Noriega years, when the Panamanian dictator was still working in tandem with the United States CIA.

Serial Killers
The Eleven Who Went to Heaven: The Case Against Ed Bell Pt. 2

After years spent investigating this case, Lisa can't simply rule it out. Lisa also learned that Bell's father, who Bell claimed was in on the program, was with him in Panama while Bell was on the lam throughout the 80s. He died there during the Manuel Noriega years, when the Panamanian dictator was still working in tandem with the United States CIA.