Liz Bates

Yes, exactly. The problem is, it's such a small party now that they'd sort of miscalculated in terms of numbers. And so... Yeah, that went badly for them.

Yes, exactly. The problem is, it's such a small party now that they'd sort of miscalculated in terms of numbers. And so... Yeah, that went badly for them.

I think what you've seen with this government so far is there was a long period of time, and we did the podcast during that period, where we thought maybe they've got a plan and they're just keeping it a secret. And then during the election campaign, we were like, well, they seem like they're not really ready, but they'll obviously be ready for the election. Ready for government.

I think what you've seen with this government so far is there was a long period of time, and we did the podcast during that period, where we thought maybe they've got a plan and they're just keeping it a secret. And then during the election campaign, we were like, well, they seem like they're not really ready, but they'll obviously be ready for the election. Ready for government.

And then they got into government and we were like, oh, they're just not ready and they actually don't have a plan. So I think when it comes to lots of things, they're figuring it out.

And then they got into government and we were like, oh, they're just not ready and they actually don't have a plan. So I think when it comes to lots of things, they're figuring it out.

And I think when it comes to how to approach America, they're doing that as well.

And I think when it comes to how to approach America, they're doing that as well.

I think we should suggest policies to them and they would probably go for it at this point.

I think we should suggest policies to them and they would probably go for it at this point.

I know. With the public.

I know. With the public.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

Literally anyone.

Literally anyone.

Anyone. It's like they're opening the windows in Whitehall and going, has anyone got any policy ideas out here?

Anyone. It's like they're opening the windows in Whitehall and going, has anyone got any policy ideas out here?

Yes. Yes, I know it sounds like an obvious question, but yes. Yes is the answer. Shame you weren't at any of their meetings before the election. A lot of UK government and how it rolls out is about the character of the person at the centre of it and that is Keir Starmer.

Yes. Yes, I know it sounds like an obvious question, but yes. Yes is the answer. Shame you weren't at any of their meetings before the election. A lot of UK government and how it rolls out is about the character of the person at the centre of it and that is Keir Starmer.