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Liz Lopatto

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259 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Hey, David.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

How's it going?

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Well, you know, I mean, it's I think we've talked about like my cycles of Elon theory where we have like periods of like peak Elon activity and then it sort of drops off and like he's Elon again.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Like this is some peak Elon activity.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

We have this idiotic trial.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

And then after that, there's an IPO.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Like I wouldn't have put those two things together personally, but I'm not Elon Musk.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Oh, this is a shit show.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Okay.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

This is a shit show for sure.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

So there is sort of like this outside possibility.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

I should note, there's an outside possibility that OpenAI loses the case and has to disgorge a bunch of money, which that potentially does affect the entire AI ecosystem because, you know, OpenAI is tied to

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Virtually every other AI company.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

They've made deals with basically everyone.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

So if OpenAI has to disgorge all this money, that's money they may not have to pay, let's say, Oracle, you know, on their obligations.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

So that is a possibility.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

But, you know, many of the lawyers I spoke to for this story were like...

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

If I were taking this case on contingency, I would not take it.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

If this were on contingency, I would not get paid.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

This is happening because Elon Musk has the money to pay someone to argue a losing case.

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