Liz Plank

sort of version of of what being a a woman is it's a woman who's very domestic who's very docile who focuses on traditional you know roles um that we sort of should you know tend to assume uh or or sort of tend to assign to women which is taking care of the kids taking care of the home making a lot of muffins and uh making a man um you know feel like he's a man by by having absolutely no

Sort of like emotions or thoughts that would challenge his own view of being a man.

I think actually trad wives are like a lot about making men feel better.

Yeah, well, that's fascinating.

I learned this recently on Amanda Montel.

She came on my podcast, sort of surprised me in the way that she explained where the term originated, which is like 4chan.

It was basically like the manosphere before we sort of had a term for it that came up with that term as a way to sort of mock women and degrade them.

And then it was like turned into a positive, I guess.

That's sort of the origin story as I understand it.

But maybe you have a different...

Wow.

That last one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They killed a white woman at that rally.

They did.

So she had a good, maybe she, yeah, she had a good premonition.

Wasn't there also, and forgive me, I don't remember the term, but there's a term for a certain kind of porn that was also sort of trending, but this was more around 2020, so maybe it was after that stepmom moment.

Where it was a kind of porn that happens within the home where a woman is literally in the middle of a domestic chore and the man starts having sex with her while she's doing the chore.

Didn't that also then become really popular?

And then some people say that it was like an extension of Tradwife, but also an expression of the pandemic and the fact that we were all sort of indoors.