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Liz Weil

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132 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

Yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

You know, so that was the first fire article I ever wrote. Basically, I had just started at ProPublica. California was burning. And they were like, write us a fire story this week. And I started talking to people. And I was so struck by people like Ting Inglesby, who had been following this for years. And this whole world that was new to me was, like, so exasperating for him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

You know, so that was the first fire article I ever wrote. Basically, I had just started at ProPublica. California was burning. And they were like, write us a fire story this week. And I started talking to people. And I was so struck by people like Ting Inglesby, who had been following this for years. And this whole world that was new to me was, like, so exasperating for him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

You know, so that was the first fire article I ever wrote. Basically, I had just started at ProPublica. California was burning. And they were like, write us a fire story this week. And I started talking to people. And I was so struck by people like Ting Inglesby, who had been following this for years. And this whole world that was new to me was, like, so exasperating for him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

It was like, you know, the Truman Show of fire weather. So one of the most surprising things to me about publishing that was that, like, Both sides of the political spectrum. It was like the one thing people could agree on was forest management, which is like the dorkiest thing to talk about in the world.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

It was like, you know, the Truman Show of fire weather. So one of the most surprising things to me about publishing that was that, like, Both sides of the political spectrum. It was like the one thing people could agree on was forest management, which is like the dorkiest thing to talk about in the world.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

It was like, you know, the Truman Show of fire weather. So one of the most surprising things to me about publishing that was that, like, Both sides of the political spectrum. It was like the one thing people could agree on was forest management, which is like the dorkiest thing to talk about in the world.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

But basically everybody could agree we shouldn't be like letting our forests get overgrown and like turning into these huge. And so like this is a message that firefighters and wildland firefighters have been talking about forever of just like California is a Mediterranean climate. Our landscape was meant to burn and it is going to burn forever. whether we want it to or not.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

But basically everybody could agree we shouldn't be like letting our forests get overgrown and like turning into these huge. And so like this is a message that firefighters and wildland firefighters have been talking about forever of just like California is a Mediterranean climate. Our landscape was meant to burn and it is going to burn forever. whether we want it to or not.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

But basically everybody could agree we shouldn't be like letting our forests get overgrown and like turning into these huge. And so like this is a message that firefighters and wildland firefighters have been talking about forever of just like California is a Mediterranean climate. Our landscape was meant to burn and it is going to burn forever. whether we want it to or not.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

So we can do that in a controlled way. We can like go into the wildland urban interface and other areas and try to like take the fuel out of there before the fire gets to it, or we can do nothing and then have these huge mega fires.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

So we can do that in a controlled way. We can like go into the wildland urban interface and other areas and try to like take the fuel out of there before the fire gets to it, or we can do nothing and then have these huge mega fires.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

So we can do that in a controlled way. We can like go into the wildland urban interface and other areas and try to like take the fuel out of there before the fire gets to it, or we can do nothing and then have these huge mega fires.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

So like a few years ago, there was a big fire coming towards South Lake Tahoe and South Lake Tahoe had actually done a really good job of forest management and whatever other things happened, too. But that was part of the reason the Tahoe didn't burn.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

So like a few years ago, there was a big fire coming towards South Lake Tahoe and South Lake Tahoe had actually done a really good job of forest management and whatever other things happened, too. But that was part of the reason the Tahoe didn't burn.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

So like a few years ago, there was a big fire coming towards South Lake Tahoe and South Lake Tahoe had actually done a really good job of forest management and whatever other things happened, too. But that was part of the reason the Tahoe didn't burn.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

OK, theoretically, I should qualify this. So like when that mega fire piece came out, it was like Ben Shapiro was retweeting it and Bernie Sanders. It was like everybody could say they were for it. But you're totally right on a local level when it comes to are we going to have this intentional fire, managed fire, what people call it like.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

OK, theoretically, I should qualify this. So like when that mega fire piece came out, it was like Ben Shapiro was retweeting it and Bernie Sanders. It was like everybody could say they were for it. But you're totally right on a local level when it comes to are we going to have this intentional fire, managed fire, what people call it like.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

OK, theoretically, I should qualify this. So like when that mega fire piece came out, it was like Ben Shapiro was retweeting it and Bernie Sanders. It was like everybody could say they were for it. But you're totally right on a local level when it comes to are we going to have this intentional fire, managed fire, what people call it like.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

In our county, people are very, very nervous and understandably so. You have this fire burning and then the winds come up and usually it goes well, but occasionally the fire jumps and houses burn down and then people are furious and feel like, why didn't we just put this whole damn thing out?