Liz Wheeler

It was our impression at that moment that within about two minutes, we would be able to break the story of the SDNY stonewalling Pam Bondi. And so when the media was so sour and bitter that we had gotten this binder that Yes, we were kind of laughing at them. We were holding up the binders in defiance saying, you know what?

It was our impression at that moment that within about two minutes, we would be able to break the story of the SDNY stonewalling Pam Bondi. And so when the media was so sour and bitter that we had gotten this binder that Yes, we were kind of laughing at them. We were holding up the binders in defiance saying, you know what?

You've been relegated to the bushes because you lie and you smear and you gaslight the American people. And we are the media now. And that was the background of that picture.

You've been relegated to the bushes because you lie and you smear and you gaslight the American people. And we are the media now. And that was the background of that picture.

You've been relegated to the bushes because you lie and you smear and you gaslight the American people. And we are the media now. And that was the background of that picture.

Now, within about two minutes of that picture being taken, we were told, please don't report on the binder itself or the story about the SDNY until 3.30 in the afternoon because they didn't want the press conference between Donald Trump and the UK prime minister to be solely focused on the SDNY Epstein Files story. So all of a sudden, we are in this situation where

Now, within about two minutes of that picture being taken, we were told, please don't report on the binder itself or the story about the SDNY until 3.30 in the afternoon because they didn't want the press conference between Donald Trump and the UK prime minister to be solely focused on the SDNY Epstein Files story. So all of a sudden, we are in this situation where

Now, within about two minutes of that picture being taken, we were told, please don't report on the binder itself or the story about the SDNY until 3.30 in the afternoon because they didn't want the press conference between Donald Trump and the UK prime minister to be solely focused on the SDNY Epstein Files story. So all of a sudden, we are in this situation where

where the press has gotten photos of us with these binders that appear to be real Epstein files, and yet we knew that they were not. And we begged for the embargo to be lifted. The process of that embargo being lifted was frankly botched up. That should have been, I mean, it was an error on the part of the White House not to allow us to go ahead and do that.

where the press has gotten photos of us with these binders that appear to be real Epstein files, and yet we knew that they were not. And we begged for the embargo to be lifted. The process of that embargo being lifted was frankly botched up. That should have been, I mean, it was an error on the part of the White House not to allow us to go ahead and do that.

where the press has gotten photos of us with these binders that appear to be real Epstein files, and yet we knew that they were not. And we begged for the embargo to be lifted. The process of that embargo being lifted was frankly botched up. That should have been, I mean, it was an error on the part of the White House not to allow us to go ahead and do that.

We, of course, were being respectful of that embargo because we were just given an exclusive story. But what happened then is pictures of us holding the binders were the only things that we were allowed to post at that moment. But we thought we'd be able within about five minutes of those posts, just getting people's attention to tell what the real story is. And yet the embargo wasn't lifted.

We, of course, were being respectful of that embargo because we were just given an exclusive story. But what happened then is pictures of us holding the binders were the only things that we were allowed to post at that moment. But we thought we'd be able within about five minutes of those posts, just getting people's attention to tell what the real story is. And yet the embargo wasn't lifted.

We, of course, were being respectful of that embargo because we were just given an exclusive story. But what happened then is pictures of us holding the binders were the only things that we were allowed to post at that moment. But we thought we'd be able within about five minutes of those posts, just getting people's attention to tell what the real story is. And yet the embargo wasn't lifted.

And so it created this situation. And I cannot even tell you how frantic I felt in this situation, Glenn, because it appears to be a bait and switch. And my goodness, that's the last thing that was ever intended. I was frantic about, behind the scenes telling the White House, you have to let me tell this story. You have to let me release this. Do you know what this looks like publicly?

And so it created this situation. And I cannot even tell you how frantic I felt in this situation, Glenn, because it appears to be a bait and switch. And my goodness, that's the last thing that was ever intended. I was frantic about, behind the scenes telling the White House, you have to let me tell this story. You have to let me release this. Do you know what this looks like publicly?

And so it created this situation. And I cannot even tell you how frantic I felt in this situation, Glenn, because it appears to be a bait and switch. And my goodness, that's the last thing that was ever intended. I was frantic about, behind the scenes telling the White House, you have to let me tell this story. You have to let me release this. Do you know what this looks like publicly?

But unfortunately, it was at least over an hour before we were able to do that. And so in the interim, everyone in the country, understandably so, assumed that those binders were full of Epstein files and they felt like we were withholding information from them. They felt like we were engaging in clickbait. They felt

But unfortunately, it was at least over an hour before we were able to do that. And so in the interim, everyone in the country, understandably so, assumed that those binders were full of Epstein files and they felt like we were withholding information from them. They felt like we were engaging in clickbait. They felt

But unfortunately, it was at least over an hour before we were able to do that. And so in the interim, everyone in the country, understandably so, assumed that those binders were full of Epstein files and they felt like we were withholding information from them. They felt like we were engaging in clickbait. They felt