Liz

And then once I was in the wilderness, I definitely learned a lot of lessons, some more tough than others, but anyone who's kind of like hoofed it in that way, I feel like could relate.

I bit off a bit more than I could chew and I learned a lot along the way.

And I found myself wanting to live like back in society.

I had found that

Living in the middle of nowhere and learning how to just feed myself through permaculture and farming was great and cool.

There were all these little communities, but I felt like I wasn't helping other people in the city or in society.

So I was just starting to feel differently about all this.

And I...

through learning meditation at some of these like retreat centers where basically like you could work and then learn through them or do like a teacher training or anything like that.

I was like, okay, I'm kind of interested in this stuff.

So I definitely want to

pursue this but I also kind of want to just get back to like a town with people and be like around people again so I moved to Boulder and I started working at a restaurant and I was like okay I kind of thought that maybe I was going to go off grid but I didn't I came back like two years later and that's when I found the Boulder Psychic Institute which basically had like

a sign out front.

It said like, free readings every Thursday, come on in.

So I went in.

Basically, we would take classes, the students that were in this introduction classes, and it felt like we had all had psychic experiences, like when we were little, or like even just some people had like one experience.

And

came there because we were always curious about it and wanted to know what would it be to sort of hone your psychic skills, which is sort of how they marketed it at the time.

And it was also very focused on healing, doing energy healing, sort of similar to Reiki.

But we had all come there feeling like...