Logan Kilpatrick

eight years ago learning to code in C++ and having a horrible experience doing that.

And I didn't have the person around me all the time who would actually help me do the thing I needed to do, which is figure out how to code.

And having an AI tutor that could help me do that would have been so valuable and not spent my time getting yelled at on Stack Overflow or whatever, which was also good.

I think if folks haven't done this before, my take, Corey, and I'm curious what your experience was like, but you need a few good examples of the model coming up with an idea that you wouldn't have thought would be helpful.

And then it kind of clicks.

Like I've done this, like historically, I was like kind of,

like I trust my human ideation process and I would intentionally not use AI to do it because I was like, you know, I actually have different and perhaps in some context more useful priors than AI systems, which are broadly trained on like lots of human knowledge.

Totally.

And then I've used the tools and then I would get some like really interesting novel idea that I wouldn't have come up with myself.

And it's given me more respect over time for like the need to actually pull these tools into the process.

I think the challenge is this how intentional you have to be about using these tools.

the tools right now.

Like I think like ideally I just do my ideation process the way that works best for me.

And the sort of the AI layer is happening seamlessly omnipresent, you know, and, and enriching whatever my ideas are.

I think today it requires like a user to like go out and be intentional about that.

And I think we'll, we'll, we'll move out of that space probably within the next couple of years of like you having to be intentional about bringing AI in a loop versus like it just being there and supporting you, which is interesting.

Yeah, one, you should definitely make sure that your law firm allows usage of these tools.

I have maybe a slightly different perspective, which I talked to...

The CEO of Casetext, which was one of the early sort of successful GPT-based products, and they had early access, and they did a bunch of stuff.

They ended up selling their company to Thomson Reuters, which is like a massive legal firm of folks that have done legal stuff in the past.