Logan Murdock

So that would, I guess, be my rebuttal during that time.

It's like, what is...

Are you saying it because of the relationship that Milwaukee has with Giannis based on how long he's been there or the play in which those two played for each other, like played in that community?

Okay, so there's a difference between most loved and best, right?

But I think time will heal that, though.

I mean, last time the Bucks were in the finals, Kareem was there.

I think he would be, based on what you're saying right now, because I think when you look at the stats, and I don't have them right in front of me at this very moment, but it doesn't even compare the stats.

It's apples and oranges from Giannis to what Kareem was at that time, right?

But I would say what you're trying to say, it feels like one is the more beloved figure than the other.

I don't even mean beloved.

I just mean imprint.

Okay.

Okay.

And that's, and that's the time argument.

So yeah.

To be fair, he was saying that like 26, 25.

As soon as he became Giannis, he was like, okay.

if we're not winning a championship, what are we doing?

And like, even he said that with Tanya Ganguly, you know, he said that behind the scenes after his first conference finals flame out, you know, he kind of has all, I feel like with Giannis, it's a,

there's two things pulling at him.