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Lori Stern

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Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Yeah, and that's probably because emotional disturbance is a catch-all category.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

According to the law that created special ed, the criteria include, and this is some of the law's language,

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

a pervasive mood of unhappiness, an inability to maintain healthy relationships, and inappropriate behavior and feelings under normal circumstances.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

The experts I talked to all said emotional disturbance is subjective.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It's not a medical diagnosis.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It's a label that's specifically created for special education.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And in most cases, it's up to schools to decide who gets that label.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It depends on a lot of things, including the state where the student lives and what school they go to and how many resources that school has for special education.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

But the goal in special education is always for kids to learn in, quote, the least restrictive environment.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

But more often than not, kids with emotional disturbance don't learn in regular classrooms.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

They learn in separate classrooms.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Federal data show students with that emotional disturbance label are three times more likely to be educated outside of regular classrooms than the overall population of kids with disabilities.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And even the EBD kids who go to regular schools are often placed in their own separate classrooms.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

To give you a sense of what that's like, I want to tell you about a classroom I spend time in.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It was at a high school about a mile from where I live in St.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Paul, Minnesota.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It's called Central Senior High School.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It's this concrete building, pretty institutional looking, but it has a great reputation.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It's known for accomplished alumni, lots of extracurriculars, and it's also super diverse.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Minnesota employs more special ed staff than most other states, so Central has quite a few special ed teachers, including two who run classrooms specifically for kids with emotional disturbance.

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