Lori Vallow Daybell
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I love Chad like I love everybody.
Well, I love Chad, of course. And I love everybody.
Absolutely. I've loved him for eternities. I have loved him for eternities in past, and I will love him for eternities in the future.
I didn't get married to Chad when he was married to Tammy, so I don't know what you're talking about. Well...
So let's go with if Tammy died of natural causes, right?
Let's go with it.
Because I know the truth, and it's my knowledge. I see. So let's go with it, okay? So if Tammy died of natural causes, then what happened? I got married to Chad after his first wife, who was my friend, passed away.
That is an untrue statement. You don't know what you're talking about on that one. No, but there was proof that the rings were purchased.
He always said, I don't know if I'll ever reach the age of 50. Dad died at such a young age.
I don't know anybody, but they're all presenting themselves. Hi, I work with Fabio. I'm so-and-so. Everybody was really nice.
After a while, there's a knock on the door, and Monica goes to answer the door. And she comes back out where all the guests were. And she's sitting there with this individual like me and you right now. They're, you know, very close. You know, you couldn't hear nothing because it was a round little table with two chairs.
They noticed he had a bandage on his finger. I noticed it too.
A friend of Fabio's said, you know, Fabio never really liked them. Do you think we should take a picture of him? We said, yeah, sure. They were able to take pictures without them noticing.
Yeah, that was a... It shook us to the core.
I mean, I'm sure you just... I don't.
Somebody masterminded all this. Duped everybody, including my brother.
My sister's husband called me and said, you need to get here right away.
So I got there and my sister was, she couldn't hold herself. Like, I don't, she was... what the heck is going on with Mirella? What happened? And she told me Fabio had died. I go, what? Fabio? I just fell to the floor.
His last message from him to us, he says, Oh, my Lord, I love him so much.
I'm friends with everybody. I love everybody.
Are you saying he became Ned Schneider?
You know when he told that to the police?
Did you hear it?
Really, Keith? Is that where you're going to go with this?
Like three weeks.
That's why the neighbors don't know us.
Like, hi, neighbor, sorry.
I talked with my hands, so it's going to be a little difficult.
There's certain things that I can't talk about.
I'm in trial coming up, as you know.
We'll do the best we can.
I have lots of stories to tell you.
Jesus visits all of us. He's a very good friend of mine. He loves everybody. I'm just his favorite.
No, I'm just teasing.
Can I joke with you, Keith? Can we joke?
That's my bumper sticker. I said, if I ever had a bumper sticker, it would say, Jesus loves you, but I'm his favorite.
She drove up to Idaho and followed me up there. She had to stay in bed for days, right?
We were going to go see Old Faithful, and she wanted to go. So she got up out of bed, JJ was running around, and she was smiling, and you have seen the pictures, right?
I heard that, and we all know what the media does, and they exaggerate everything, and they make stuff up, and they twist things around, so. I don't know how it became what it is today. It's amazing to me, and I don't really know, and I'm not exposed to what's going on out there.
I hear stuff from my family that's like, oh, somebody does a blog about you every day or something. I'm like, how could they do a blog every day? It's been like five years. It's mind-blowing. It's mind-blowing.
Mm-hmm. Tragedies. Tragedies in my life. So the media loves to take tragedies and turn them into crimes, turn them into horrible things. And I had a lot of tragedies in a row, like a domino effect.
Absolutely, but, yeah.
I mean, how do you know a person if you never talked to them in five years? How do you know anything about them? How do you know anything about their life? about how it really is.
It's mind-blowing. The media loves to take tragedies and turn them into crimes.
No, no comment.
Everyone has a time when they live, and everyone has a time when they're going to go back home to heaven. So it's kind of the idea of, like, you go off to college, learn a bunch of things, have experiences, that's what life is, and then you go home.
Tammy died of natural causes. Tammy knows the truth. I love her and she loves me. We've been friends for eternities.
You're going to have to break these questions down, Keith, and I'm going to have to answer them one at a time. Because I thought we were going to be friends.
I'm friends with everybody. I love everybody. I'm all about the love.
My husband?
My husband that I've been married to for five years?
It doesn't bother me, but I'm Lori Daybell.
That is an untrue statement. You don't know what you're talking about on that one.
Those rings were not initially bought for us. So get your facts straight, Keith, before you start making accusations. See, you don't know.
You don't have any idea because you've heard all these rumors.
Rumor has it.
Alex and Zulema, initially.
We used them in our ceremony, and then they were given back to Alex.
I'm here to tell you the truth, and you don't even want to hear it.
I don't think you do.
I'm trying to give you the truth, and you really don't want to hear it. So you want the truth that you already think you know. I'm the person it happened with. I'm the only one who knows the truth, and I'm trying to give it. But if you don't want to hear it, I will be happy to be quiet.
If you want to know, it's a lot of stuff.
Is that where you're going?
I never spank my children. I don't yell at my children. I only use love and logic with my children, right? I want to build them up. I want to help them because of what I learned in heaven.
Because Tylee's very smart, very sassy. She knows how to push your buttons. She knows what to say.
I was able to be very peaceful with Tylee. I was able to be patient with Tylee because I watched her suffer so much. All right. Okay. And I knew she was not going to live forever. Because you know that you can die of pancreatitis any time you have it.
I'm in trial coming up, as you know. Do you know that, Keith?
Good one, Keith.
Jesus knows me. And Jesus understands me.
Accidental deaths happen. Suicides happen. Fatal side effects from medications happen.
When I saw Tylee in heaven before she was born, she knew she was going to come have all these difficult things, and she was still giddy with excitement about coming to Earth and fulfilling her mission.
It's not fun when so many things are not true.
There's a lot to my life. There's a lot to my life. If you want to hear the actual explanations, I'm here. There's a big, long explanation. But it doesn't sound like you really want a lot of the actual explanations.
Well, it's going to take a long time, so it's probably going to take more than one session.
He has a great sense of humor, and he's super, super funny.
You're asking me personally, the only person on the earth who really knows, and you're shaking your head no, like that didn't happen.
You sound good to me. I don't know if you can hear me very well.
I wanted to talk to you so I could hear your questions and answer your questions because you are the only person besides me on this whole earth who really loved both of them the way that I did.
What if Tylee holding JJ down for too long, trying to get him to not scream and be loud in the apartment, which she was always upset about, and what if she held him down too long and realized afterwards what she had done?
What I'm saying is, is I wasn't aware what happened to them after I left that scene.
This is my mission and my mission will be revealed to everybody at some point, and including you. And at that time, I just want you to know I'm not going to say I told you so. I'm just going to say I love you.
You're asking me questions.
Attitude... Is that not what you wanted to hear? Attitude here... You're calling me a babbler? And here... Do you want to take a break?
I've loved him for eternities.
You want to go on later and say, Lori told me this in your ominous voice, but really this is what happened. Are you going to do that to me, Keith?
Yes. That's the exact voice that I'm talking about.
Did you hear him say that?
No, that's the narrative that you've been running.
No, that's not accurate. Sorry, it's not the truth. You asked me for the truth. You're asking me personally. The only person on the earth who really knows. And you're shaking your head no like that didn't happen.
Yeah, you're shaking your head. A little bit.
Were you there when... I was falsely accused. I was falsely convicted.
And I will be exonerated.
Was I where?
What place was that?
What place was that? Do you have any idea?
Well, I'm the only one that knows. Do you know? You're pretending like you know.
I told Colby.
I have two motions that I'd like to file at the court today.
It's great, actually. It's a difficult thing to do. You have to have your arguments, you know? I think this judge in particular has been pretty patient in letting people get their whole argument out.
I understand that, yeah. They have some fascinating stories.
The same way I will be exonerated, we will both be exonerated in the future.
I have seen things in the future that Jesus showed me when I was in heaven. And we were not in jail. And we were not in prison. And they were still in the future from now.
And I will love him for eternities in the future.
And we should, we should do a little jig.
After I get exonerated, maybe I'll go on Dancing with the Stars and you can come.
And then... All right, I guess our time is up.
Absolutely not. What proof and evidence is there? All these rumors. You've heard a lot of stuff, but what I tell you will be the truth.
I'm basically a ticking time bomb.
I heard that. I thought we were going to be friends.
That was amazing.
It was amazing because the veil was once again opened, and we remembered each other.
Other Earths that were located in the universe. My spirit was standing up, looking down at my body.
I mean, it's unlike anything earthly once you're out of your body.
I recognized him spiritually. He recognized me spiritually, that we had known each other for eternities. Chad, hi. Hi.
Who said that Chad said that? Are you saying that Chad said that?
You've heard a lot of stuff, Keith, and I'm here to say you've heard a lot of stuff, but what I tell you will be the truth.
How is the defense trial by ambush when they have interviewed every single one of these witnesses?
I've done everything in my power with the limitations that I am an incarcerated person at this maximum security prison jail. And I shouldn't be able to represent myself because of that fact? That negates my constitutional right?
And why was that?
Did you see with your eyes? or hear with your ears or personally witness me conspire with my brother, Alex Cox, to murder my husband, Charles Bell?
This is an attempt by the state to try to retrofit a crime that doesn't exist. This event was not a crime. It was a tragedy. Don't let them turn my family tragedy into a crime.
A two-minute period changed our lives forever. How are you supposed to choose between three people you love, your husband, your daughter, your brother?
Many days, she just was like smiling and laughing and didn't seem to take anything very seriously.
It did.
Your jury's deliberating?
Self-defense is not a crime. A family tragedy is not a crime.
Charles was coming with me to that and yelling at me to give him his phone.
Long investigation does not always equal mystery.
I didn't see the shot. I heard it, and then I came back around, and I saw that he was on the ground.
What did you say that made me say that I was already there?
I already know what?
That would have been nice, but that wasn't the point. How did I know you were coming to give me a death notification? Can't reject a speculation.
Do you have a degree in psychology?
Do you know what a person should act like if they're in a stressful situation?
Okay. And it would have been non-emotional if I was trying to be calm for my daughter? I'm going to object to speculation.
Were you being calm? I believe so. Were the other detectives being calm?
Let's rocket into the meeting.
Do you want me to stand, Your Honor, or can I just sit here?
The state has continued to impede the defense from conducting a defense.
This is a violation of the 14th Amendment of our great Constitution and the defense's due process rights.
These are serious charges and these are serious consequences for these charges.
See you later. Bye-bye.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I have been charged with a crime, a serious crime. And the only question here is, did I commit this crime?
I just didn't see it in your report, but I saw it on the body cam, so I wondered if you knew. I'm going to object to the defendant testifying.
I apologize, Your Honor.
The evidence will show that after this struggle on the ground between Charles and Alex, that Charles prevailed with the bat and began to come towards me with the bat as I ran away from him into the kitchen. The evidence will show that at some point while I was running away from Charles, who is chasing me with a bat, that Alex apparently retrieved his gun.
The evidence will show that I ran outside to the children and that Alex shot Charles in self-defense.
The evidence will show you that I drove the children away from the residence towards JJ's school. Can I grab a tissue?
Spouses having insurance policies is not a crime. Collecting social security is not a crime. Self-defense is not a crime. A family tragedy is not a crime.
Can you tell me what the weapon was that you found?
Was it a .45?
I did not plan on getting sick. I did not try to get sick. This isn't anything to do with anything other than the fact that I'm incapable of going forward and doing a good job representing myself.
How you doing?
I'm incapable of going forward and doing a good job representing myself.
How is the defense trial by ambush when they have interviewed every single one of these witnesses?
I've done everything in my power with the limitations that I am an incarcerated person at this maximum security prison jail. And I shouldn't be able to represent myself because of that fact? That negates my constitutional right?
And why was that?
Did you see with your eyes? or hear with your ears or personally witness me conspire with my brother, Alex Cox, to murder my husband, Charles Bell?
This is an attempt by the state to try to retrofit a crime that doesn't exist. This event was not a crime. It was a tragedy. Don't let them turn my family tragedy into a crime.
A two-minute period changed our lives forever. How are you supposed to choose between three people you love, your husband, your daughter, your brother?
Many days, she just was like smiling and laughing and didn't seem to take anything very seriously.
It did.
See you later. Bye-bye.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I have been charged with a crime, a serious crime. And the only question here is, did I commit this crime?
I just didn't see it in your report, but I saw it on the body cam, so I wondered if you knew. I'm going to object to the defendant testifying.
I apologize, Your Honor.
The evidence will show that after this struggle on the ground between Charles and Alex, that Charles prevailed with the bat and began to come towards me with the bat as I ran away from him into the kitchen. The evidence will show that at some point while I was running away from Charles, who is chasing me with a bat, that Alex apparently retrieved his gun.
The evidence will show that I ran outside to the children and that Alex shot Charles in self-defense.
The evidence will show you that I drove the children away from the residence towards JJ's school. Can I grab a tissue?
Spouses having insurance policies is not a crime. Collecting social security is not a crime. Self-defense is not a crime. A family tragedy is not a crime.
Can you tell me what the weapon was that you found?
Was it a .45?