Lou Whiteman

You're not the same person at 20 that you are at 35, 45 years old.

I mean, typically...

Most people through life, they get some perspective, often build families and have just sort of new life events that give them sort of a different point of view.

And it is something to keep in mind.

We do love...

seeing these founder-led businesses.

But there are also situations where a founder hits his or her limits.

They can't quite get to that next level.

They get to a point where, okay, maybe you need to bring someone in that can take this business to the next level.

I think about Chipotle, for example.

Steve Ells ran into that situation where he just didn't have

what was required to be able to take that business to the next level.

Obviously, Brian Niccol did.

Steve Jobs, he was one of one, right?

I think a unique and a larger than life leader.

And I think that's just it.

He was a good leader.

And it doesn't sound like he was that easy to work with, but I think typically that's the case, right?

I think we've heard the same thing about Jeff Bezos.

They demand a lot.