Louis Theroux

Look at her Instagram.

I'm not talking about you specifically.

This is a kind of fictional person.

She's always on the cover of Vogue or on a runway, and she's not doing street theatre in Poland.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

And so you could imagine that would create a prejudice that, oh, that brings an association of glamour rather than craft, right?

Fairly or unfairly.

Because I think... Well, we should... I don't know if people who are listening or watching would know that initially you got signed up as a model.

Is that correct?

When you were in late teens, you'd moved to... We've resumed the sub-narrative.

Having left the Chiswick Performing Arts School, you went to LA?

Yeah.

Or to Ojai?

Did you get scouted when you were out there?

Why, having signed you in London, did they send you to LA?

Was there a time when they were freaking out?

You did say you were expelled from the performing arts school, right?

They must have been like, oh, that's not good.

Really?

So they were pretty chill by and large?