Louis Theroux

She says, I don't think about beta.

I think about here is a settlement and here is a settlement and here is a settlement.

So she she would say like she has no animus against Palestinian people.

She just doesn't think about them like she is only thinking about how to advance the cause of of of Jewish nationalism itself.

in the region.

And I say to her, you know, to think about your own people first is understandable, but to think about other people not at all seems sociopathic.

So the reason I say I like I'm quite I'm sort of pleased that

Because it's kind of pious to say like, oh, I don't distinguish between my own children and children halfway around the world, right?

That's clearly not the case.

But that's also the beginnings of tribalism, isn't it?

Well, I sometimes pretentiously quote Nietzsche and say... As one does.

As one does, especially if you're a perennial kind of existentialist student, you know, plonker.

But, you know, one of his things is madness in individuals is rare, but in periods of time, nations and religions, it's the norm.

So that we are all capable of being indoctrinated in forms of irrationality.

So is it depressing?

Yes.

especially in light of so much of it is informed by an infrastructure of Jewish persecution.

You know, the idea of like, we've suffered across the centuries as Jewish people, and that therefore, the extrapolation from that is like, how could we ever be accused of hurting others, of displacing or inflicting genocide on others?

But I think, you know, what is the conclusion?

It's just that it requires this sort of endless attempt to police your own impulses.