Louis Theroux

I'm answering my own question.

Thanks to Jimmy for coming on the podcast.

A few notes.

These are my footnotes.

Punching up, punching down.

Look, respect to Jimmy for making no bones of the fact that he thinks it's a fallacious or kind of flawed or bogus analytical term.

And I do agree that where is up and down, right?

You're saying like up's there and down's there.

Well, I know that, but in power relations, it's not always that clear.

You know, it's like the term elite.

Who's in the elite other than me?

You know, we're told that the elite is this sort of woke liberal consensus sometimes by populists, but...

But they would say that they're not the elite and the elite is the oligarchs who are funding the populist movements.

You know what I mean?

Am I getting too political?

I'm moving on.

I said there's no such thing as a joke and I couldn't remember who said it.

I googled it.

It said Freud might have said it and then I re-googled it and I don't know if Freud did say it.

I don't know if anyone has really actually said it like in writing.