Louis Tomlinson

So we're all ready to go out fighting because we'd not really had that at that point.

Most things that we'd done, we felt really confident doing.

So like we were kind of going on the back four.

And then I can remember when we walked out on stage and I think we opened with something that wasn't a single and people were just locked in, like massively locked in.

And it was really, really fucking loud in there.

And I think that was a moment where I remember, again, I had this kind of side to me when I was younger.

I was so excited to tell Richard, who was our manager at the time, I was so excited to tell him post-gig about how it actually went.

Did you see it then?

Because that was obviously not how it played out.

And I remember feeling pretty smug about that, but I think it was once I kind of got to bed that evening, I was kind of thinking, I don't know, I wasn't an overly deep thinker at that point, but I was still thinking occasionally on a deep level.

And I'm looking at this music manager and I'm thinking like,

this guy's like uber experienced.

Like he's been in this situation countless times.

So if he was to predict it wrong, like maybe he did, I'm like, well, maybe something is happening.

How do you take care of yourself amongst that?

Because, you know, one of the things I've learned from doing this podcast is I've learned so much about the brain.

I've learned so much about dopamine and sleep and

circadian rhythms and all these all these things and so i when i fit that into the context of what your life was like at an age where these neuroscientists tell me that the male brain is still growing it's still forming itself you're putting this tremendous external pressure on it you're like shocking it every night i remember when i interviewed liam um your former bandmate

him telling me that he would like, he remembers walking out on stage and I think it was Dubai.

It was like a hundred thousand people there.