Louis Tomlinson

Yeah.

Yeah, it's something, it's still something that I'm unpacking still, to be honest, and still trying to work out all of those kind of things.

I remember, something I spoke about before, but Julian Bonetta, who is a producer who worked on a lot of the One Direction stuff, we had a great relationship with him, really cool guy.

We had this crazy night at, it was like some kind of billboard awards in Vegas.

Julian, he pulled me aside and he said, and it was like really, it's funny because he's not really like...

this heavy but it's a real heavy statement he'd obviously had a few vodka red balls or something and he was like where do we go from here now by the way the we upset me a little bit it's like I understand that and we are all in this together but that question is a hell of a lot deeper for me than it is you I understand I get it but at the same time you're probably and what he did end up doing is carrying on doing what he did

And I still don't really know the answer to that question.

And I still, in fact, maybe I don't think you can.

I think a lot of people's, not everyone's, but most people's natural trajectory of let's just call it success.

I could make a pedantic argument for it not being specifically that.

But, you know, they have a kind of lineal journey.

The older they get, the more successful that they get.

What was really strange was being 24 years old and realizing that the only way is down from it.

There is no alternative reality where I at least keep up or supersede.

No way.

There was no chance of that.

And that wasn't, you know, it was very obvious.

It was very obvious to anyone around it.

And still it's something that is challenging, definitely, because you've had a look behind the curtain, you know.

Now, some of the things...