Louis Tomlinson

What do you do about that?

Do you have to use a different yardstick of measurement?

I try to.

These are words, aren't they?

That's it.

And some days I live by it.

Some days I live by it, definitely.

I wrote something on my social media, probably like four or five years ago now, but it was on Instagram, I think, and about my interpretation of the word success.

Because I'd spent a long time and I only knew through the lens of One Direction.

And I think that's a constant battle.

It's a constant conversation with myself internally that I can measure my own success in a different way.

It doesn't have to be a numbers game, you know.

In terms of like fulfillment, for example, and like, you know, going...

doing like this latest record that I've just written.

Like I feel really, really good about it.

There's been an element of me kind of swimming against the tide a little bit to this point.

It's like that, the feeling of fulfillment is like, that's, that's legit.

Did you have conversations with your, your former bandmates about how they were coping with these?

Yeah.

Yeah.