Louis Ziskin

And they'd go to the store and ask people, hey, are you buying stamps today?

Buy these for four instead of pay those for five.

Get me two Snickers and this and that.

But it's a time intensive, takes a lot of work.

But when you give somebody a hundred bucks in prison, that's life-changing economy.

So they were super happy to do that.

So we were cycling everything through.

We basically centralized the banking process.

For Lompoc, no different.

Like you got Zelle, you got Cash App, you got all these different ways of doing money now in the world, right?

You got TransferWise, you got BankWire, you got, you know, ATM, you got all these things, right?

So we kind of brought that all under one house with the same mentality of like the more transactions there are, the better for everybody.

Right.

So once we did that, like we became friends with them.

I, you know, I'd be out if Gato or Bob came out in the morning, which didn't happen all the time.

You know, I'd walk the track with him in the afternoon.

I used to play backgammon with Carmine Persico.

You know, he's like, Lou, you're so smart.

If you would just stop putting hurdles in front of yourself, you could lead the race from the beginning to the end instead of having to catch up from behind.

And I'm like, yeah, but it's fun catching people when they think you can't.