Louis Ziskin

That was an interesting thing.

And then ultimately after I got busted, Simon continued...

Trying to do the business which I have no moral quandary with Unfortunately, he went back to that guy that I told you turned out to be a rat a couple years later Who I owed money to in the beginning and he was a rat He did record him and he busted him and Simon ended up doing 12 years and you know in the UK one of the longest drug sentences they ever had

And then he got out, you know, but his kid was already 12, 13.

It was a tough, tough one for him.

You know, he had a beautiful wife.

Obviously, that kind of ruined their relationship.

You know, but it is I mean, there's it's not all milk and cookies.

Not all money is good money.

Sometimes it's hard money.

Then the Chinese guys, they didn't—you know, they were just—that's where I learned that.

Like, hey, nothing stops the wheel.

Right.

Right?

You don't need to give us anything.

The wheel has to keep turning.

And then that was the first time that I understood that there's mechanisms behind the mechanism of what we're doing that are—

earning from this also.

And once the wheel's going at that level, it just, if there's one enemy to any part of that wheel, it's an enemy to everybody.

And so that was kind of where I was like, man, this is, oh, wow, this is pretty big.