Louise McSharry

And I did really feel for her when, you know, she was crying on stage.

I saw Katie Brand, who is a kind of theater maker and she has had TV shows and stuff.

But she posted a message kind of of support because she said, I just know what it's like when you work in theater.

sometimes you really just have to get on the stage and it is so hard and it doesn't matter what's gone on or what you've experienced or what you are experiencing at that time you have to just keep showing up and like sometimes that's possible and I know myself like even with this podcast or in my radio days like oh listen there are times where you have to and you I'm sure you were the same I've had texts yeah when I was doing a road watch people were like

Most of the time I found, and this is one of the reasons that I like, not to be too dramatic, but I really do believe that I was meant to do like broadcasting because most of the time I find, and you guys have heard this on the podcast.

Like you've heard there was a, I think mainly on the Patreon, but there was one day recently, not long ago,

where I was in such a failure and I just like said it at the start of the episode was me and Emer and I was like look guys I've just spent the last 15 minutes crying and complaining to Emer I was like I'm just going through it I was like but I know that I'm going to feel better in like five minutes because once I start I do feel better but that's not the situation for everyone and obviously it depends on your your unique situation and your set of experiences and I feel very lucky that I have this actually and this that you know this work is a great distraction for me when I'm having a hard time

I don't always want to do it.

But once I start, I usually feel okay.

When you hit record, you're like, it's showbiz, darling.

Well, I think one of the hardest things for women when they...

allow themselves to like fully get into a relationship like that and let go and let their walls down and fall in love is and honestly there's loads of parallels here I think with the Sierra situation from Summer House is it's that feeling of like now I look stupid now I look stupid now I feel stupid.

because i've been on my instagram and i've been like soft and gentle and i've been hiring bone thugs and harmony to play at your birthday party and everybody knows this and now everybody knows that you're a cheater and that you have been treating me like dirt and i have on some level let you treat me like dirt and i think that's what's where sierra is coming from with a lot of the west stuff as well that like you know she's someone who is very careful and then she softened and like let the walls down and she's now been publicly you know treated badly twice um

Well, Esther, you know, it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Well, this is the thing.

Like every relationship that you're in is going to end...

in one of three ways yeah it's either gonna end in marriage or like you know love until you die or one of you is gonna die or you're gonna break up like one of those three eventualities is inevitable so you know

you have to accept that sometimes it's not going to go the way that you want it to go, but that doesn't, that it shouldn't.

And I know for someone like Meg at the moment, I'm sure it's very difficult, but that shouldn't take away from the beauty of the relationship when it's good.

When someone acts like such a dickhead though, I think it does change the whole thing.