Louise McSharry

Okay, let's move on.

This is good news in the context of Assad's situation.

Northern Ireland has become the first part of the UK or Ireland to offer paid leave for people experiencing miscarriage.

Like, yes, this should already be the case.

It's bananas.

England Scotland and Wales as well but it's I mean commendable and creditable I think that Northern Ireland is taking the lead on it yeah and I know just to acknowledge that uh you guys may remember kind of feels like a long time ago now I had Sinn Féin Senator Nicole Ryan on the podcast talking about her efforts in this category in this part of Ireland uh to try and get similar rights for people who experience miscarriage after her own experience of miscarriage

And I know that she's working kind of tirelessly on that.

So hopefully we will see something happen here as well, because it is just bananas that you would be expected to kind of carry on as normal or take annual leave in the context of a pregnancy loss, which can be so, I mean, it can be physically very difficult and also obviously emotionally and mentally extremely difficult as well.

And people deserve to be cared for in the context of that.

We can just do so much better.

And yeah, well done Northern Ireland in this context.

That's certainly...

and progress in a positive direction.

Okay, Carl.

Well, we've set the world to rights and we will do it again next week.

If you want more Carl, and I know you do, you can read his brilliant column, Surrealing in the Years.

It's in thejournal.ie every Saturday.

You can find him on social media.

He's on Blue Sky, Carl Kintzler and carl.kintzler on Instagram.

Carl, thanks very much.