Louise Thompson

want to do something with that.

And I think it's because when you've suffered so much, you feel the pain so intensely, like you've experienced that more than anything, any other like human lived experience, you become obsessed with it, you research it.

And I'd say it's probably why a lot of like therapists as well

end up, a lot of therapists are people that have been through something really traumatic and have had to work through their own stuff.

They've worked with therapists.

They realize that they're an expert in that, in understanding and in connecting with other people that have been through something really deep.

And they then go, yeah, I can recognize that in other people and I really want to help.

And I guess that's kind of, I'm not saying, I definitely don't have the time to train to be a therapist and I'd be terrible.

I'm terrible at listening.

But, Ryan will tell you that.

But I do... Yeah, I don't know.

I feel like this is the beginning.

We've got six months to see what we can do.

I mean, we could get millions of signatures.

One of the next exciting things that we'd really like to do would be to get a lot of women together to do a huge photo call on College Green, which is opposite Parliament, to create some more noise.

And then really it's kind of...

conjuring up this marketing campaign just so that everybody knows and it's the education piece and I feel supported because there are some brilliant charities out there like the Birth Trauma Association who I work really closely with, the CEO Dr. Kim Thomas has been heavily involved in this space for so long and I guess they're right at the kind of like grassroots level

They're the people that have to really pick up the pieces when people's worlds fall apart.

They're the ones offering out the resources.

They're the ones with the peer-to-peer support, picking up the phone, trying to make sure that people stay alive.