Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling

Yeah, I just had that question from the thing I was just on with a bunch of national security professionals, and that's why I'm wearing a tie today. And the same question came up about what will it mean to the alliance if the U.S. pulls out? And first of all, it's more than just a military alliance. I mean, the partnership and the trust and the alliance is just magical.

Yeah, I just had that question from the thing I was just on with a bunch of national security professionals, and that's why I'm wearing a tie today. And the same question came up about what will it mean to the alliance if the U.S. pulls out? And first of all, it's more than just a military alliance. I mean, the partnership and the trust and the alliance is just magical.

Yeah, there's a lot of problems with NATO. It's sometimes hard to get decisions when you're in Brussels. But boy, it's stuck around for 80 years doing some really good things in some really tough situations. Could the Europeans survive without the United States? Yeah, they could. but it wouldn't be the same alliance. I think they depend on us as much as we depend on them.

Yeah, there's a lot of problems with NATO. It's sometimes hard to get decisions when you're in Brussels. But boy, it's stuck around for 80 years doing some really good things in some really tough situations. Could the Europeans survive without the United States? Yeah, they could. but it wouldn't be the same alliance. I think they depend on us as much as we depend on them.

Yeah, there's a lot of problems with NATO. It's sometimes hard to get decisions when you're in Brussels. But boy, it's stuck around for 80 years doing some really good things in some really tough situations. Could the Europeans survive without the United States? Yeah, they could. but it wouldn't be the same alliance. I think they depend on us as much as we depend on them.

And plus, if we pull out of NATO, which some have suggested, I would think we'd lose the intelligence sharing. We're going to lose the trust and the connection to the continent. We're going to use an economic factor and a diplomatic factor that's part of national power.

And plus, if we pull out of NATO, which some have suggested, I would think we'd lose the intelligence sharing. We're going to lose the trust and the connection to the continent. We're going to use an economic factor and a diplomatic factor that's part of national power.

And plus, if we pull out of NATO, which some have suggested, I would think we'd lose the intelligence sharing. We're going to lose the trust and the connection to the continent. We're going to use an economic factor and a diplomatic factor that's part of national power.

So if you look at the four elements of national power, diplomacy, military, information, and economy, all of those will be decreased for us if we pull out of the alliance. And I don't think it's a very smart move.

So if you look at the four elements of national power, diplomacy, military, information, and economy, all of those will be decreased for us if we pull out of the alliance. And I don't think it's a very smart move.

So if you look at the four elements of national power, diplomacy, military, information, and economy, all of those will be decreased for us if we pull out of the alliance. And I don't think it's a very smart move.

I think they're degraded now, but hopefully, you know, for their sake, they would learn some lessons. And that's why I don't think we should, we, the United States or NATO should give them a break. We should not allow them to go to a peace talks because they're just going to pull back, take their chunk of land and then determine how they're going to move forward.

I think they're degraded now, but hopefully, you know, for their sake, they would learn some lessons. And that's why I don't think we should, we, the United States or NATO should give them a break. We should not allow them to go to a peace talks because they're just going to pull back, take their chunk of land and then determine how they're going to move forward.

I think they're degraded now, but hopefully, you know, for their sake, they would learn some lessons. And that's why I don't think we should, we, the United States or NATO should give them a break. We should not allow them to go to a peace talks because they're just going to pull back, take their chunk of land and then determine how they're going to move forward.

And three, four or five years from now, they're going to invade somebody else that's less well-equipped than Ukraine. All right. So you're a St.

And three, four or five years from now, they're going to invade somebody else that's less well-equipped than Ukraine. All right. So you're a St.

And three, four or five years from now, they're going to invade somebody else that's less well-equipped than Ukraine. All right. So you're a St.

Well, back in the day, SLU and CBC were like major rivals.

Well, back in the day, SLU and CBC were like major rivals.

Well, back in the day, SLU and CBC were like major rivals.