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Lucas Swisher

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
675 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

On the private side, oftentimes the most expensive deals can be the best ones in many ways.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And what I would say more on a macro point is, if you think about the public markets right now, it's very hard to own the future.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You have to look and really pick and be really careful about the future.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You get liquidity.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You can trade in and out of things.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

That's the beautiful part about the public markets.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

But it's hard to own the future.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

If you want to own the future, you kind of have to be in the privates, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Think about it this way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Say I want to be ultra levered long to the token factory.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

I think tokens are the next big thing in AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And I want to be ultra levered long to AI and whatever the next token factory is.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You can own some things in the public markets, but you may say, I want to own OpenAI and Anthropic.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

and SpaceX, which now owns XAI, and this long list of incredible AI application companies that are coming downstream.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And so to get growth, something that's growing more than 30%, to get durability of that growth, to get access to the future, you have to own privates.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You know, that's absolutely right, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

We've seen the emergence of, I mean, we call them platform companies, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

At the top, call it 20, rough justice, 20 companies in the private markets.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

18 of those would probably be public today, a decade ago.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

But we've seen the emergence of these platform companies.