Lucas Swisher

I met him before the Series A that Pat did.

I remember being like, this is it.

We had an early stage practice at the time that we were really involved with, and we did lose the A. You know, it goes back again to our, I don't try to do very many A's.

It goes back to our strategy, which is even sometimes if you miss an early round, for the great companies in the world, there's always another round.

I would say Sequoia and Benchmark.

I want to split my dollar.

You're going to allow me to split my dollar.

And I think it's this firm that, again, it's so good and they have the ability to reinvent themselves, right?

I mean, they hired Ev, who's my old analyst.

So good for them.

Leaving Insight for Kleiner.

I know a lot of people.

So I was Harvard undergrad then went to Insight and I left Insight pretty early.

I was the first one to leave.

We hired classes of 10 back then.

So it was like 10 analysts, all really young kids coming out of school.

The junior summer internship at Insight was literally dialing for dollars.

I mean, it's incredible training ground.

I called 50 CEOs a week, like literally cold call.

I mean, this was 10 years ago, almost 15 years ago now.