Lucy Hough

So in terms of the numbers where we are at one o'clock on Friday, Labour down over 320 seats and gains for reform of an astronomical 470.

That's expected to rise.

And we are speaking about just England at the moment.

We haven't got counts yet for Scotland and Wales.

So you mentioned Wigan, where Reform have won every seat possible.

It was possible to win there.

That is the seat of Lisa Nandy, who is in the Cabinet as Culture Secretary.

There's been, you know, real changes around the seats of Angela Rayner, Jonathan Reynolds, these kind of, as you say, real Labour, former Labour strongholds, which is really worrying for the next general election.

But where else has been interesting?

What can we look at?

And they have been working very hard to lay the ground, not least in Wales, where they're expected to have this historic loss.

Welsh Labour has been in charge in the Senate since devolution in 1999.

Labour has been clear that they are expected to

Yeah, and also Scotland where John Swinney and the SNP are expected to hold on.

But Labour, again, on this issue of expectation management, they've been sort of rolling this figure of 1,500 seats would be the kind of expectation.

This morning when I was listening to pollsters, they were saying actually it could look something like 1,800.

But the way things are now playing out, it looks more like 1,200, which is, you know, still bad for Labour.

Completely disastrous.

Exactly.

But perhaps buys Keir Starmer a little bit more time.