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Lucy Shipley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
423 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yeah, brave Horatius, the captain of the gates. Even the Etruscans could force scarce forbear to cheer. Wow, you know that off by heart.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So really, Livy goes into detail of this, and it's this figure from QC. He's kind of this semi-mythical figure himself, Las Porcenas. But he's presented as this very wise king, and he recognizes that actually, this is a bit of a lost cause. And there's no point just shoving a king back into power when actually all the people hate him.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So really, Livy goes into detail of this, and it's this figure from QC. He's kind of this semi-mythical figure himself, Las Porcenas. But he's presented as this very wise king, and he recognizes that actually, this is a bit of a lost cause. And there's no point just shoving a king back into power when actually all the people hate him.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So really, Livy goes into detail of this, and it's this figure from QC. He's kind of this semi-mythical figure himself, Las Porcenas. But he's presented as this very wise king, and he recognizes that actually, this is a bit of a lost cause. And there's no point just shoving a king back into power when actually all the people hate him.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

that they the siege is not successful there's a story about this roman youth who breaks in to try and murder porcena and he gets caught because he mixes up porcena with his servant and then he says oh you can kill me you can torture me i'm not scared and he puts his hand into a brazier of fire but porcena is so impressed by this that he says oh if this city is full of young people like this then actually you know i don't i don't i don't fancy this like these people are these people are a bit much i'm i'm

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

that they the siege is not successful there's a story about this roman youth who breaks in to try and murder porcena and he gets caught because he mixes up porcena with his servant and then he says oh you can kill me you can torture me i'm not scared and he puts his hand into a brazier of fire but porcena is so impressed by this that he says oh if this city is full of young people like this then actually you know i don't i don't i don't fancy this like these people are these people are a bit much i'm i'm

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

that they the siege is not successful there's a story about this roman youth who breaks in to try and murder porcena and he gets caught because he mixes up porcena with his servant and then he says oh you can kill me you can torture me i'm not scared and he puts his hand into a brazier of fire but porcena is so impressed by this that he says oh if this city is full of young people like this then actually you know i don't i don't i don't fancy this like these people are these people are a bit much i'm i'm

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

you know i think it's over for you my friend he says to his ally i'm terribly paraphrasing paul livy's probably spinning in whatever grave he's in um but again it's it's that kind of it's those stories that you see again and again it's a story it's a motif that you remember you the heroic young man you just talked about the holding holding of the bridge and horatius this captain of the guard who swims the river because he's so brave he lets the bridge be destroyed behind him and then swims the river and it you know it's

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

you know i think it's over for you my friend he says to his ally i'm terribly paraphrasing paul livy's probably spinning in whatever grave he's in um but again it's it's that kind of it's those stories that you see again and again it's a story it's a motif that you remember you the heroic young man you just talked about the holding holding of the bridge and horatius this captain of the guard who swims the river because he's so brave he lets the bridge be destroyed behind him and then swims the river and it you know it's

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

you know i think it's over for you my friend he says to his ally i'm terribly paraphrasing paul livy's probably spinning in whatever grave he's in um but again it's it's that kind of it's those stories that you see again and again it's a story it's a motif that you remember you the heroic young man you just talked about the holding holding of the bridge and horatius this captain of the guard who swims the river because he's so brave he lets the bridge be destroyed behind him and then swims the river and it you know it's

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

There's a reason why this stuff comes up later. The bit of poetry that I just quoted is from the 19th century. These stories have so much power to them. But in a way, I'd like to move away from those to stories that we don't maybe know so well. So at this point... what we are seeing is the beginning of that twist towards Roman power, the beginning of Rome's rise in the Italian Peninsula.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

There's a reason why this stuff comes up later. The bit of poetry that I just quoted is from the 19th century. These stories have so much power to them. But in a way, I'd like to move away from those to stories that we don't maybe know so well. So at this point... what we are seeing is the beginning of that twist towards Roman power, the beginning of Rome's rise in the Italian Peninsula.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

There's a reason why this stuff comes up later. The bit of poetry that I just quoted is from the 19th century. These stories have so much power to them. But in a way, I'd like to move away from those to stories that we don't maybe know so well. So at this point... what we are seeing is the beginning of that twist towards Roman power, the beginning of Rome's rise in the Italian Peninsula.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

I'm sure you have episodes and episodes on Rome's rise to power and what happens next. But to go back to the Etruscan city at Veii, this is the moment that's going to spark off the steady rise in rivalry that will end with the siege of Veii. So we talked about a siege of Rome, but a really big date in Etruscan archaeology is the siege of Veii and its fall. So Veii falls in 396 BC. So not too long.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

I'm sure you have episodes and episodes on Rome's rise to power and what happens next. But to go back to the Etruscan city at Veii, this is the moment that's going to spark off the steady rise in rivalry that will end with the siege of Veii. So we talked about a siege of Rome, but a really big date in Etruscan archaeology is the siege of Veii and its fall. So Veii falls in 396 BC. So not too long.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

I'm sure you have episodes and episodes on Rome's rise to power and what happens next. But to go back to the Etruscan city at Veii, this is the moment that's going to spark off the steady rise in rivalry that will end with the siege of Veii. So we talked about a siege of Rome, but a really big date in Etruscan archaeology is the siege of Veii and its fall. So Veii falls in 396 BC. So not too long.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yes, it's a hundred years. So it's a steady process of kind of Think of the mess in Rome after all of this. Can you imagine? There's an awful lot to do, and there's a lot of things that happen in that century that we can talk about. But to just focus in, again, on storytelling. So, Veii falls after a 10-year siege. Think of the Trojan War. That's 10 years, all the stories we have from that.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yes, it's a hundred years. So it's a steady process of kind of Think of the mess in Rome after all of this. Can you imagine? There's an awful lot to do, and there's a lot of things that happen in that century that we can talk about. But to just focus in, again, on storytelling. So, Veii falls after a 10-year siege. Think of the Trojan War. That's 10 years, all the stories we have from that.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yes, it's a hundred years. So it's a steady process of kind of Think of the mess in Rome after all of this. Can you imagine? There's an awful lot to do, and there's a lot of things that happen in that century that we can talk about. But to just focus in, again, on storytelling. So, Veii falls after a 10-year siege. Think of the Trojan War. That's 10 years, all the stories we have from that.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And because they're so close together, there's this pattern where they'll besiege Veii and then go home. And it's just so extraordinary to us sitting here in the present to think about how this siege might have worked and that you leave your family and you go and besiege this other city and then actually it's not going very well so you come back. And then you go back for some more.