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Lucy Shipley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
423 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Marzabota, that I've just talked about, that gets pretty much wiped out through Gaulish raiding. They're coming at all directions. And it's fascinating to just see things starting to fall apart for the Etruscans in all these different areas.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And again, to use a later time period as well, there's this tendency to brush over Etruria and say, oh, the Gauls, when they sacked Rome, they sweep through Etruria. But actually, if you think about the reality of what that's like for people on the ground and for these Etruscan cities that are there, they're at risk too. It's not just these big blockbuster events.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And again, to use a later time period as well, there's this tendency to brush over Etruria and say, oh, the Gauls, when they sacked Rome, they sweep through Etruria. But actually, if you think about the reality of what that's like for people on the ground and for these Etruscan cities that are there, they're at risk too. It's not just these big blockbuster events.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And again, to use a later time period as well, there's this tendency to brush over Etruria and say, oh, the Gauls, when they sacked Rome, they sweep through Etruria. But actually, if you think about the reality of what that's like for people on the ground and for these Etruscan cities that are there, they're at risk too. It's not just these big blockbuster events.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

If you have an army of marauding ghouls showing up in Rome, they've come through Etruria on their way there, burning and pillaging as they go, presumably. So yes, I think it's that thing where when you're doing very well and you're very successful and you're obviously... great source of wealth showing off through all these trading networks.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

If you have an army of marauding ghouls showing up in Rome, they've come through Etruria on their way there, burning and pillaging as they go, presumably. So yes, I think it's that thing where when you're doing very well and you're very successful and you're obviously... great source of wealth showing off through all these trading networks.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

If you have an army of marauding ghouls showing up in Rome, they've come through Etruria on their way there, burning and pillaging as they go, presumably. So yes, I think it's that thing where when you're doing very well and you're very successful and you're obviously... great source of wealth showing off through all these trading networks.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

The dark side of that is that everybody can see what a fantastic target you are. There's a target on your collective backs effectively and everybody's starting to nibble at the edges and then things are starting to go wrong. And it's really interesting to think about how the Romans conceptualized this.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

The dark side of that is that everybody can see what a fantastic target you are. There's a target on your collective backs effectively and everybody's starting to nibble at the edges and then things are starting to go wrong. And it's really interesting to think about how the Romans conceptualized this.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

The dark side of that is that everybody can see what a fantastic target you are. There's a target on your collective backs effectively and everybody's starting to nibble at the edges and then things are starting to go wrong. And it's really interesting to think about how the Romans conceptualized this.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So there's this motif that pops up in the Roman sources called the abyssus etruscus, the kind of overweight Etruscan. And it's linked to these ideas about Stoicism and Confucianism. kind of luxury. You see it in the Greek sources as well. Luxury is bad for you. If you're kind of having too good of a time and it's coming up for Christmas, I don't want to be fat shaming anybody.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So there's this motif that pops up in the Roman sources called the abyssus etruscus, the kind of overweight Etruscan. And it's linked to these ideas about Stoicism and Confucianism. kind of luxury. You see it in the Greek sources as well. Luxury is bad for you. If you're kind of having too good of a time and it's coming up for Christmas, I don't want to be fat shaming anybody.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So there's this motif that pops up in the Roman sources called the abyssus etruscus, the kind of overweight Etruscan. And it's linked to these ideas about Stoicism and Confucianism. kind of luxury. You see it in the Greek sources as well. Luxury is bad for you. If you're kind of having too good of a time and it's coming up for Christmas, I don't want to be fat shaming anybody.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

But if you're having too much of a good time, you're getting lax, you're getting soft. There's this idea that actually a hard life is good for you. And when things are getting too luxurious, then you are weak.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

But if you're having too much of a good time, you're getting lax, you're getting soft. There's this idea that actually a hard life is good for you. And when things are getting too luxurious, then you are weak.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

But if you're having too much of a good time, you're getting lax, you're getting soft. There's this idea that actually a hard life is good for you. And when things are getting too luxurious, then you are weak.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And we see that in kind of representations in your interest in Alexander and the Persian Empire, this representation of the Persian Empire as being kind of soft, effectively, too addicted to luxury, and it falls.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And we see that in kind of representations in your interest in Alexander and the Persian Empire, this representation of the Persian Empire as being kind of soft, effectively, too addicted to luxury, and it falls.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And we see that in kind of representations in your interest in Alexander and the Persian Empire, this representation of the Persian Empire as being kind of soft, effectively, too addicted to luxury, and it falls.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yeah. So whether it's kind of complacency or this conception of these people as actually they're too addicted to their wine. We jokingly talked in the Lucretia story about these Etruscan women as the party girls.