Lucy Shipley

And you asked about kings. So king is a really tricky term. a tricky thing. If you look at the historical sources, they will quite often, and more as we go on as we talk about these interactions with Rome, they will talk about Etruscan kings. The reason I brought up Demaratus is because he ends up being very closely linked to the Etruscan kings of Rome. But are these figures really kings?

And you asked about kings. So king is a really tricky term. a tricky thing. If you look at the historical sources, they will quite often, and more as we go on as we talk about these interactions with Rome, they will talk about Etruscan kings. The reason I brought up Demaratus is because he ends up being very closely linked to the Etruscan kings of Rome. But are these figures really kings?

And you asked about kings. So king is a really tricky term. a tricky thing. If you look at the historical sources, they will quite often, and more as we go on as we talk about these interactions with Rome, they will talk about Etruscan kings. The reason I brought up Demaratus is because he ends up being very closely linked to the Etruscan kings of Rome. But are these figures really kings?

Are they kind of elite families that are important How do we define what a king is? Is a king someone who's just called a king? What does it matter? We don't have nation states, so why does it matter that we pick up on the semantics of this word king? I think it matters because there are so many different people vying for roles where they have influence, roles where they have power.

Are they kind of elite families that are important How do we define what a king is? Is a king someone who's just called a king? What does it matter? We don't have nation states, so why does it matter that we pick up on the semantics of this word king? I think it matters because there are so many different people vying for roles where they have influence, roles where they have power.

Are they kind of elite families that are important How do we define what a king is? Is a king someone who's just called a king? What does it matter? We don't have nation states, so why does it matter that we pick up on the semantics of this word king? I think it matters because there are so many different people vying for roles where they have influence, roles where they have power.

We know from the Etruscan texts that they have quite a complicated system of magistrates, the people who are doing these important administrative roles. We know that there are people with an awful lot of resources and presumably political sway and influence to go with that. I don't know whether I would be happy to call them a king. I would probably say,

We know from the Etruscan texts that they have quite a complicated system of magistrates, the people who are doing these important administrative roles. We know that there are people with an awful lot of resources and presumably political sway and influence to go with that. I don't know whether I would be happy to call them a king. I would probably say,

We know from the Etruscan texts that they have quite a complicated system of magistrates, the people who are doing these important administrative roles. We know that there are people with an awful lot of resources and presumably political sway and influence to go with that. I don't know whether I would be happy to call them a king. I would probably say,

go and talk to Christopher Smith because he's wonderful and he'll tell you more and more about this. So going back to kind of the geography for a minute there. So we have this 12 Etruscan cities. But at the time that we're starting to think about the Etruscans on this podcast today, they've also expanded to the north and to the south.

go and talk to Christopher Smith because he's wonderful and he'll tell you more and more about this. So going back to kind of the geography for a minute there. So we have this 12 Etruscan cities. But at the time that we're starting to think about the Etruscans on this podcast today, they've also expanded to the north and to the south.

go and talk to Christopher Smith because he's wonderful and he'll tell you more and more about this. So going back to kind of the geography for a minute there. So we have this 12 Etruscan cities. But at the time that we're starting to think about the Etruscans on this podcast today, they've also expanded to the north and to the south.

So in the north, they've headed all the way to almost kind of the Venetian Lagoon area. Amazing site called Spina, which is this incredible Etruscan trading city on the Adriatic. Also the Bologna area as well. So they seem to be building almost like a colonia, like a deliberately designed town.

So in the north, they've headed all the way to almost kind of the Venetian Lagoon area. Amazing site called Spina, which is this incredible Etruscan trading city on the Adriatic. Also the Bologna area as well. So they seem to be building almost like a colonia, like a deliberately designed town.

So in the north, they've headed all the way to almost kind of the Venetian Lagoon area. Amazing site called Spina, which is this incredible Etruscan trading city on the Adriatic. Also the Bologna area as well. So they seem to be building almost like a colonia, like a deliberately designed town.

There's an example there called Marzabotto, which we talked about in the last episode in relation to kind of architecture, Etruscan domestic architecture. But you have evidence of like city planning there, the design of the city, all these features like public space, the design of streets, all of those things are present at Marzabotto, which is really interesting.

There's an example there called Marzabotto, which we talked about in the last episode in relation to kind of architecture, Etruscan domestic architecture. But you have evidence of like city planning there, the design of the city, all these features like public space, the design of streets, all of those things are present at Marzabotto, which is really interesting.

There's an example there called Marzabotto, which we talked about in the last episode in relation to kind of architecture, Etruscan domestic architecture. But you have evidence of like city planning there, the design of the city, all these features like public space, the design of streets, all of those things are present at Marzabotto, which is really interesting.

Oh, absolutely. Yes, I really want to talk about this. It's something that quite often gets caught up and forgotten to one side between the relationships of the Greeks and the Romans, which I was just about to do. So thanks very much for stopping me. We could talk for a long time about relationships between Etruria and Northern Europe, between Etruria and Gaul in particular.

Oh, absolutely. Yes, I really want to talk about this. It's something that quite often gets caught up and forgotten to one side between the relationships of the Greeks and the Romans, which I was just about to do. So thanks very much for stopping me. We could talk for a long time about relationships between Etruria and Northern Europe, between Etruria and Gaul in particular.