Ludwig Göransson

And Black Panther is the talking drums.

Yeah, it's the first type of communication device.

It's the first telephone.

So in Africa, and specifically I went to Senegal in West Africa,

But the talking drum exists in so many different regions down in Africa.

But it's basically a drum that you can play messages with because it's very small and you can breathe and you can squeeze it to have different pitches.

So with these different pitches and these different rhythms, you can talk.

It's almost like Morse code, you know, but analog on a drum.

And in every village, they would have a talking drum that would relay messages to everyone.

He would stand in the middle.

He or she would stand in the middle and then play.

And you could tell, oh, the king has died.

Or someone's back from being gone for a long time.

Everyone would get together.

And I met this incredible musician in Senegal, Masamba Diop.

who put together an amazing talking drum crew and we recorded a bunch of stuff in Senegal.

And one thing that I thought was interesting was like, how would you say T'Challa's name on that instrument, on that drum?

The theme.

And for Sinners, yeah, it's guitar again, and we're back to where it all started.

I mean, you could ask him, you know, because when we were doing Sinners, he was practicing guitar.