Lukas Nelson

When I was like 15, I read his book.

And the one thing that I – I'm a friend of – What was his book?

He read – it was like a book about him maybe.

OK.

And I don't remember.

But what I really wanted the focus to be on was let's put all these resources into getting this planet right first.

Let's put everything we have –

And it felt at the time like, OK, well, yes, we're spending all this money to go off and maybe we're hopeless.

It's possible that we're hopeless and it sounds like that's where they err on this.

It's like, oh, well, humanity on earth is just over.

We just have to go somewhere else.

But then if we go somewhere else, we're just going to do the same thing like you're saying.

Yeah.

All of the resources, in my opinion, should be focused on like – like there's devices that they have invented that can be put in river mouths around the world to filter out pollution and plastics going into the ocean, right?

And it's like this incredible technology.

If the budgets were spent towards these –

innovations you know uh... you know and maybe a i will help it you know right now a is a is is is kind of tax on the planet in terms of like you know it's not very great good for it but maybe the a i technology itself will then invent something that makes itself more efficient for the planet what do you mean by as a tax well because the energy required for the servers and all of that is so so uh... you know it drains

Right, right.

And so but what AI may do is help us create like an ion battery or something that like that, like makes energy give off less, you know, you can have this much more energy with way less heat and way less.

Right.