Lukas Nelson

I actually heard you say that with Charlie.

I was like, yeah, I think I agree.

Well, and he was a disciple of Hendrix.

Oh, yeah.

He really sat and really lived that life.

The thing that I learned that was the best lesson I learned, it goes back to why I am sober now and where I'm at.

It was because I think the greatest lie I ever believed for so long – I did 15 years on the road, 250 shows a year.

And I told myself I had to live like my heroes in order to be – and I think that's what –

It didn't kill Stevie Ray, but it derailed him for a long time before he got sober.

Stevie Ray died in a tragic accident, obviously.

That's what happened.

The voice is such an incredible thing, is it not?

I mean, you know, the power of a vocal – like, look at James Earl Jones.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right?

You know, like –

to change Darth Vader by the way Darth Vader yeah he is Darth Vader yeah and he lived to be what 95 something like that how long did he I mean he was crazy and he was still doing that well yeah that's there's certain ones but Stevie Ray didn't wouldn't take limos like fuck this limo he wanted to get he liked to talk to cab drivers liked to get in a cab and he liked to just keep it real oh man even though he was a superstar he didn't want to be treated like one he just wanted to be normal

Some of the best conversations I've ever had have been in, like, Ubers or Lyfts or, you know, whatever, just sitting and, like, chatting about, like, where they're from and, like, how they got there.

And, like, there's a lot of incredible stories that, you know, of, like, you know, perseverance.

Yeah.