Lukas Nelson

I always was like, yeah, I wish I hadn't.

It puts you in bad spots.

I think the people, and I've read this, that the people who actually sort of drink and become happier with the life of the party or whatever are the ones who are more likely to become addicted, obviously.

Oh, for sure.

Because there are two types of people that when they drink – like for me, when I drink, it kind of makes me think more and I get kind of depressed and I get kind of down.

I don't really actually – Well, you're a sensitive artist, literally.

Hold on.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

I think that the ice bath analogy for me is like I love the clarity that I get after an ice bath, and I feel like sobriety gives me that.

It's just like this great, awake, alive feeling, and I'm living in that clarity.

Well, it's helped me get through life understanding people and that their their behavior comes from their own trauma and their own past.

Well, that's the great lesson.

And it doesn't mean that – I think it doesn't mean that you are that.

It just means that you're afraid of that inside.

Oh, yeah.

It doesn't necessarily mean you are that.

But I think that, yes, it's like what you're most afraid of –

Because you know it exists in you.

Because everything exists in all of us.