Lukas Nelson

There is real –

We wouldn't exist where we are without the science that has brought us to where we are.

And technology.

And so understanding and trusting and figuring out how to restore faith in certain institutions that we have.

Because we need them to survive and to keep going.

So it's like not tearing down the airplane while it's falling.

You have to repair the airplane from inside and then keep it flying if you can.

So is there a way to like right the ship while we're in it?

That's the problem.

I'm just what I'm saying.

I'm like how do we switch it so that we can have people in power that really are looking out for the future of humanity and then have people that actually want that because some people are going to have to take –

sacrifices for that, you know, in a way.

And I mean, people high up are going to have to say, well, I'm going to have to, you know, get paid a little less because this, you know.

It's a great struggle, Lucas.

Yeah, it really is.

Yeah, it really is.

It has.

I enjoyed talking to you.

I enjoyed talking to you, too.

All right.