Luke Caverns

um that that the odyssey takes place there are phoenician trade routes going all around the mediterranean and so you have phoenicians that may be stopping in the nile delta where the london where the where the uh the lotus grows in abundance you know acquiring these lotus and then going around on their trade routes and so is this some is this some you know very scant uh

only remaining evidence of the fact that the lotus was a hot commodity, not only in Egypt, where it's clearly being consumed in abundance because it's on every single temple wall in every tomb wall everywhere, but also it's popular in the Mediterranean. So there's something really profound about this, about this flower.

only remaining evidence of the fact that the lotus was a hot commodity, not only in Egypt, where it's clearly being consumed in abundance because it's on every single temple wall in every tomb wall everywhere, but also it's popular in the Mediterranean. So there's something really profound about this, about this flower.

only remaining evidence of the fact that the lotus was a hot commodity, not only in Egypt, where it's clearly being consumed in abundance because it's on every single temple wall in every tomb wall everywhere, but also it's popular in the Mediterranean. So there's something really profound about this, about this flower.

So I say trade routes connecting ancient Tunisia to Egypt through Phoenician trade routes are well-established. Could bundles of the Egyptian lotus have been a regular trade item? Question mark. I say, by the fifth century BC, the Greek traveler Herodotus was certain that the lotus eaters still existed off the east coast of Libya near Egypt. So that's really interesting.

So I say trade routes connecting ancient Tunisia to Egypt through Phoenician trade routes are well-established. Could bundles of the Egyptian lotus have been a regular trade item? Question mark. I say, by the fifth century BC, the Greek traveler Herodotus was certain that the lotus eaters still existed off the east coast of Libya near Egypt. So that's really interesting.

So I say trade routes connecting ancient Tunisia to Egypt through Phoenician trade routes are well-established. Could bundles of the Egyptian lotus have been a regular trade item? Question mark. I say, by the fifth century BC, the Greek traveler Herodotus was certain that the lotus eaters still existed off the east coast of Libya near Egypt. So that's really interesting.

So, you know, that's almost a thousand years later. Is there anything below that, Ryan? Oh wow, okay. Okay, so Herodotus says, a promontory jutting out into the sea from the country of the Gendanis is inhabited by the lotus eaters who live entirely on the fruit of the lotus tree. The lotus fruit is about the size of the lentisk berry and in sweetness resembles the date.

So, you know, that's almost a thousand years later. Is there anything below that, Ryan? Oh wow, okay. Okay, so Herodotus says, a promontory jutting out into the sea from the country of the Gendanis is inhabited by the lotus eaters who live entirely on the fruit of the lotus tree. The lotus fruit is about the size of the lentisk berry and in sweetness resembles the date.

So, you know, that's almost a thousand years later. Is there anything below that, Ryan? Oh wow, okay. Okay, so Herodotus says, a promontory jutting out into the sea from the country of the Gendanis is inhabited by the lotus eaters who live entirely on the fruit of the lotus tree. The lotus fruit is about the size of the lentisk berry and in sweetness resembles the date.

The lotus eaters even succeed in obtaining it from a sort of wine. So there, it's the lotus being mixed and aged into the wine and being consumed that way and clearly having some kind of profound effect on them. That's why they're so famous. And that's the other thing is, okay.

The lotus eaters even succeed in obtaining it from a sort of wine. So there, it's the lotus being mixed and aged into the wine and being consumed that way and clearly having some kind of profound effect on them. That's why they're so famous. And that's the other thing is, okay.

The lotus eaters even succeed in obtaining it from a sort of wine. So there, it's the lotus being mixed and aged into the wine and being consumed that way and clearly having some kind of profound effect on them. That's why they're so famous. And that's the other thing is, okay.

You know, a population of a bunch of fat people gorging themselves on cake is not really attested to in the historical record. There was something even more particular about those people that is worth preserving in history, right?

You know, a population of a bunch of fat people gorging themselves on cake is not really attested to in the historical record. There was something even more particular about those people that is worth preserving in history, right?

You know, a population of a bunch of fat people gorging themselves on cake is not really attested to in the historical record. There was something even more particular about those people that is worth preserving in history, right?

That can get kind of muddy because we are talking about the Odyssey, which is a historical fiction that's written around 800 BC about events that took place somewhere around 400 years earlier. But there's all kinds of things in Homer's writing where... we have evidence of the fact that he's using real peoples and places as part of his historical narrative.

That can get kind of muddy because we are talking about the Odyssey, which is a historical fiction that's written around 800 BC about events that took place somewhere around 400 years earlier. But there's all kinds of things in Homer's writing where... we have evidence of the fact that he's using real peoples and places as part of his historical narrative.

That can get kind of muddy because we are talking about the Odyssey, which is a historical fiction that's written around 800 BC about events that took place somewhere around 400 years earlier. But there's all kinds of things in Homer's writing where... we have evidence of the fact that he's using real peoples and places as part of his historical narrative.

But that doesn't mean that Agamemnon, Menelaus, Helen of Sparta, Achilles, Hector, you can go Andromache, it doesn't mean any of those people actually existed, but Troy, Mycenae, Sparta, Ithaca, these are all real people and places.