Luke Caverns
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It needs to be perfect because you're putting some kind of perfect, expensive, imported compound from the other side of the Mediterranean. So then I say, why did the creation of hard stone vases end around 3100 BC, the beginning of Dynasty 1? I should really say around Dynasty 0.
Dynasty 1 to Dynasty 0, there's a controversy there over what exactly it is, but Dynasty 0 is the reign of the king Menes, but we don't know if Menes is the same king as Narmer. We don't know if he's the same person, like if he gives himself the pharaonic name, or if Menes is Narmer's father. So we have Dynasty Zero.
Dynasty 1 to Dynasty 0, there's a controversy there over what exactly it is, but Dynasty 0 is the reign of the king Menes, but we don't know if Menes is the same king as Narmer. We don't know if he's the same person, like if he gives himself the pharaonic name, or if Menes is Narmer's father. So we have Dynasty Zero.
Dynasty 1 to Dynasty 0, there's a controversy there over what exactly it is, but Dynasty 0 is the reign of the king Menes, but we don't know if Menes is the same king as Narmer. We don't know if he's the same person, like if he gives himself the pharaonic name, or if Menes is Narmer's father. So we have Dynasty Zero.
But at Dynasty Zero, the vases are not being made anymore, according to the archaeological record that we have. So David, what's his name? Mianna.
But at Dynasty Zero, the vases are not being made anymore, according to the archaeological record that we have. So David, what's his name? Mianna.
But at Dynasty Zero, the vases are not being made anymore, according to the archaeological record that we have. So David, what's his name? Mianna.
I've never seen, I've never seen a stone vase. Cause I've gone, you know, I've, I've gone to the museums and, that I know he's been to in Alexandria, where you're looking at the Ptolemaic dynasties, the end of Greek civilization. And I've looked for hard stone vases. There's hard stone statues being made. There's a granite bust of Alexander's head.
I've never seen, I've never seen a stone vase. Cause I've gone, you know, I've, I've gone to the museums and, that I know he's been to in Alexandria, where you're looking at the Ptolemaic dynasties, the end of Greek civilization. And I've looked for hard stone vases. There's hard stone statues being made. There's a granite bust of Alexander's head.
I've never seen, I've never seen a stone vase. Cause I've gone, you know, I've, I've gone to the museums and, that I know he's been to in Alexandria, where you're looking at the Ptolemaic dynasties, the end of Greek civilization. And I've looked for hard stone vases. There's hard stone statues being made. There's a granite bust of Alexander's head.
So this is a whole other thing we'll talk about one day is Alexandria. Oh my gosh, that's such a cool topic. Because I think the Greeks learned how to do a lot of things that were happening in the Old Kingdom. But a lot of things come back during that time period. But hard stone vase making does not come back during that period.
So this is a whole other thing we'll talk about one day is Alexandria. Oh my gosh, that's such a cool topic. Because I think the Greeks learned how to do a lot of things that were happening in the Old Kingdom. But a lot of things come back during that time period. But hard stone vase making does not come back during that period.
So this is a whole other thing we'll talk about one day is Alexandria. Oh my gosh, that's such a cool topic. Because I think the Greeks learned how to do a lot of things that were happening in the Old Kingdom. But a lot of things come back during that time period. But hard stone vase making does not come back during that period.
And it doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware, during the Persian era, during the invasion of the Assyrians to... 21st Dynasty, you know, towards the end of Egyptian civilization, the end of the New Kingdom, these hardstone vases aren't around anymore. From what I know, and archaeological data I've looked at, is that it's agreed upon by a lot of Egyptologists that
And it doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware, during the Persian era, during the invasion of the Assyrians to... 21st Dynasty, you know, towards the end of Egyptian civilization, the end of the New Kingdom, these hardstone vases aren't around anymore. From what I know, and archaeological data I've looked at, is that it's agreed upon by a lot of Egyptologists that
And it doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware, during the Persian era, during the invasion of the Assyrians to... 21st Dynasty, you know, towards the end of Egyptian civilization, the end of the New Kingdom, these hardstone vases aren't around anymore. From what I know, and archaeological data I've looked at, is that it's agreed upon by a lot of Egyptologists that
from dynasty one or dynasty zero, the vases are not being made anymore. They completely end. Now from there, it doesn't mean they disappear because we have Jojer who Egyptologists say he gathered thousands of these vases, anywhere from... I think the number is controversial, but it's anywhere from 10 to 40,000 vases of these hardstone vases that he stored underneath his pyramid.
from dynasty one or dynasty zero, the vases are not being made anymore. They completely end. Now from there, it doesn't mean they disappear because we have Jojer who Egyptologists say he gathered thousands of these vases, anywhere from... I think the number is controversial, but it's anywhere from 10 to 40,000 vases of these hardstone vases that he stored underneath his pyramid.
from dynasty one or dynasty zero, the vases are not being made anymore. They completely end. Now from there, it doesn't mean they disappear because we have Jojer who Egyptologists say he gathered thousands of these vases, anywhere from... I think the number is controversial, but it's anywhere from 10 to 40,000 vases of these hardstone vases that he stored underneath his pyramid.
And the traditional thought is that these were heirlooms from his ancestors, right? You've heard this before too. Now, Jozer's ancestors, I'll just read it off here. Because it's more concise the way I wrote it. So the overwhelming majority of pre-dynastic hardstone vases were discovered beneath Jozer's step pyramid complex. The overwhelming majority.