Luke Caverns

Um, so it's kind of messy, but Jozer and his ancestors are Memphites from Northern Egypt and we interpret those as being his ancestors. So I just wonder if, if that's my explanation or my possible theory as to why they're not made anymore.

Yeah, and you know, I don't really have a strong understanding of the technicalities behind making it. And that's how I preface my whole thing is it's not about, my explanation is not about how they were made. That's not what I do. You know, I study culture, I study the people, and I try to put the pieces together of how people are interacting with these vases.

Yeah, and you know, I don't really have a strong understanding of the technicalities behind making it. And that's how I preface my whole thing is it's not about, my explanation is not about how they were made. That's not what I do. You know, I study culture, I study the people, and I try to put the pieces together of how people are interacting with these vases.

Yeah, and you know, I don't really have a strong understanding of the technicalities behind making it. And that's how I preface my whole thing is it's not about, my explanation is not about how they were made. That's not what I do. You know, I study culture, I study the people, and I try to put the pieces together of how people are interacting with these vases.

And can we find a history to go along with the vases, right? Can we give them some kind of context? And so that's what I look for. And so in that, I think... I think, well, I mean, I'm just proposing an idea as to why they were stopped being made, what happened to the technology that it falls out during the chaos of this unification of upper and lower Egypt. And then as far as the use of them,

And can we find a history to go along with the vases, right? Can we give them some kind of context? And so that's what I look for. And so in that, I think... I think, well, I mean, I'm just proposing an idea as to why they were stopped being made, what happened to the technology that it falls out during the chaos of this unification of upper and lower Egypt. And then as far as the use of them,

And can we find a history to go along with the vases, right? Can we give them some kind of context? And so that's what I look for. And so in that, I think... I think, well, I mean, I'm just proposing an idea as to why they were stopped being made, what happened to the technology that it falls out during the chaos of this unification of upper and lower Egypt. And then as far as the use of them,

My thought is that wealthy people who are getting a hold of and have the access to use the lotus flower in imported wine, foreign wine. I mean, they have their own wines too, but inexpensive wines and brews and beers and they're aging lotus and they want it to stay preserved in something high quality, right?

My thought is that wealthy people who are getting a hold of and have the access to use the lotus flower in imported wine, foreign wine. I mean, they have their own wines too, but inexpensive wines and brews and beers and they're aging lotus and they want it to stay preserved in something high quality, right?

My thought is that wealthy people who are getting a hold of and have the access to use the lotus flower in imported wine, foreign wine. I mean, they have their own wines too, but inexpensive wines and brews and beers and they're aging lotus and they want it to stay preserved in something high quality, right?

Something that the liquid isn't going to absorb into and it's not gonna flake off into the liquid. It doesn't explain why the vases are perfect. And I should say, just to be honest, a good counter to my own argument is these could be later uses of vases that have been laying around, right? So it's hard to say. That's a good counter to my whole argument too.

Something that the liquid isn't going to absorb into and it's not gonna flake off into the liquid. It doesn't explain why the vases are perfect. And I should say, just to be honest, a good counter to my own argument is these could be later uses of vases that have been laying around, right? So it's hard to say. That's a good counter to my whole argument too.

Something that the liquid isn't going to absorb into and it's not gonna flake off into the liquid. It doesn't explain why the vases are perfect. And I should say, just to be honest, a good counter to my own argument is these could be later uses of vases that have been laying around, right? So it's hard to say. That's a good counter to my whole argument too.

But yeah, that's my premise and my approach, kind of what I'm working on right now with these vases. Nice, nice.

But yeah, that's my premise and my approach, kind of what I'm working on right now with these vases. Nice, nice.

But yeah, that's my premise and my approach, kind of what I'm working on right now with these vases. Nice, nice.

Exactly. Well, and I wonder with a lot of the certificates, is it, I mean, I think either way is fine. But sometimes on the certificates, they're either saying this was found in a tomb from 2600 BC, or they're estimating when the artifact was made, right? So that's kind of the hard part is, okay, you can't judge how old the vase is.

Exactly. Well, and I wonder with a lot of the certificates, is it, I mean, I think either way is fine. But sometimes on the certificates, they're either saying this was found in a tomb from 2600 BC, or they're estimating when the artifact was made, right? So that's kind of the hard part is, okay, you can't judge how old the vase is.

Exactly. Well, and I wonder with a lot of the certificates, is it, I mean, I think either way is fine. But sometimes on the certificates, they're either saying this was found in a tomb from 2600 BC, or they're estimating when the artifact was made, right? So that's kind of the hard part is, okay, you can't judge how old the vase is.

Because the vases are made in the north, but when they're found in tombs in the south, that tomb in the south is usually hundreds of years later, right? So, you can't use it to say, okay, this was made in 2600 BC in the south, when really it was made 500 years earlier in the north. So, yeah. Yeah. And it can go back way further than that. I mean, I'm saying 3100 BC.