Luke Caverns

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is the opposite of self-awareness. Sure, sure, sure. But... people who are ruled over by a complete monarchy don't have the freedom to do any of that at all, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is the opposite of self-awareness. Sure, sure, sure. But... people who are ruled over by a complete monarchy don't have the freedom to do any of that at all, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is the opposite of self-awareness. Sure, sure, sure. But... people who are ruled over by a complete monarchy don't have the freedom to do any of that at all, right?

Yeah, they can't judge other people. There's nothing to judge. And if you judge, the only person to judge is not your fellow citizen because you're all subservient to the God-King and you're not going to cast your judgment on the God-King. So in a way, what I mean is that Athenian society is self-aware because they're able to cast judgment on each other. And that's why their forums existed.

Yeah, they can't judge other people. There's nothing to judge. And if you judge, the only person to judge is not your fellow citizen because you're all subservient to the God-King and you're not going to cast your judgment on the God-King. So in a way, what I mean is that Athenian society is self-aware because they're able to cast judgment on each other. And that's why their forums existed.

Yeah, they can't judge other people. There's nothing to judge. And if you judge, the only person to judge is not your fellow citizen because you're all subservient to the God-King and you're not going to cast your judgment on the God-King. So in a way, what I mean is that Athenian society is self-aware because they're able to cast judgment on each other. And that's why their forums existed.

That's why the Agora and the Stoa existed. That's why the Athenian courts existed. So it gave people the ability to lob jabs at each other and be self-critical of each other. Now, some people are self-critical of themselves. Those people end up becoming the philosophers. Does that make sense? So you have this...

That's why the Agora and the Stoa existed. That's why the Athenian courts existed. So it gave people the ability to lob jabs at each other and be self-critical of each other. Now, some people are self-critical of themselves. Those people end up becoming the philosophers. Does that make sense? So you have this...

That's why the Agora and the Stoa existed. That's why the Athenian courts existed. So it gave people the ability to lob jabs at each other and be self-critical of each other. Now, some people are self-critical of themselves. Those people end up becoming the philosophers. Does that make sense? So you have this...

incredibly intricate society that i'm still just an infant in learning um you know there's there's there's this is an endlessly deep topic um that's deeply nuanced with people who are as intelligent and as perceptive as we are and more intelligent and more and more perceptive than we are and people who are extremely in touch with logic and reasoning and who spent

incredibly intricate society that i'm still just an infant in learning um you know there's there's there's this is an endlessly deep topic um that's deeply nuanced with people who are as intelligent and as perceptive as we are and more intelligent and more and more perceptive than we are and people who are extremely in touch with logic and reasoning and who spent

incredibly intricate society that i'm still just an infant in learning um you know there's there's there's this is an endlessly deep topic um that's deeply nuanced with people who are as intelligent and as perceptive as we are and more intelligent and more and more perceptive than we are and people who are extremely in touch with logic and reasoning and who spent

so so so much time having deep philosophical conversations asking these perennial questions that we still ask today and I think that that connected with me on so many levels more so than just like ancient historical or archaeological fascination it felt like if I could better understand the civilization I'd better understand myself and I'd be a better person having known it if that makes sense

so so so much time having deep philosophical conversations asking these perennial questions that we still ask today and I think that that connected with me on so many levels more so than just like ancient historical or archaeological fascination it felt like if I could better understand the civilization I'd better understand myself and I'd be a better person having known it if that makes sense

so so so much time having deep philosophical conversations asking these perennial questions that we still ask today and I think that that connected with me on so many levels more so than just like ancient historical or archaeological fascination it felt like if I could better understand the civilization I'd better understand myself and I'd be a better person having known it if that makes sense

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, the Romans, it's kind of like... They're fascinating, but you're studying... We are the Romans, essentially. We really are more similar to the Romans than the Greeks. That's a fact. The Greeks are like an ideological thing to aspire to. And in reality, it's just a blip of Greek time. That's really all it was. It rose, and then it fell. And that's why the...

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, the Romans, it's kind of like... They're fascinating, but you're studying... We are the Romans, essentially. We really are more similar to the Romans than the Greeks. That's a fact. The Greeks are like an ideological thing to aspire to. And in reality, it's just a blip of Greek time. That's really all it was. It rose, and then it fell. And that's why the...

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, the Romans, it's kind of like... They're fascinating, but you're studying... We are the Romans, essentially. We really are more similar to the Romans than the Greeks. That's a fact. The Greeks are like an ideological thing to aspire to. And in reality, it's just a blip of Greek time. That's really all it was. It rose, and then it fell. And that's why the...

That's also why, whether or not Plato's Republic and the story of Atlantis really is based on a kernel of truth, it's the reason he talked about it, because Atlantis is supposed to represent Athens. It's this rise of this very self-confident, capable, luxurious, beautiful civilization, and then it becomes overly competent and arrogant, and then it falls.

That's also why, whether or not Plato's Republic and the story of Atlantis really is based on a kernel of truth, it's the reason he talked about it, because Atlantis is supposed to represent Athens. It's this rise of this very self-confident, capable, luxurious, beautiful civilization, and then it becomes overly competent and arrogant, and then it falls.