Luke Caverns

And we kind of, in an almost rogue fashion, teach folks out in the field. We do field education tours. So we give lectures at night and we bring people actually through the ruins and teach them about it. And it's been great. For years now, I've traveled all over Mesoamerica and South America teaching people, but also selfishly, Making it like I really want to go there.

I'm going to make a trip and people can come and be involved in my research. And now I've done that for a number of years. I've gotten into this podcast world by creating a podcast. I actually... I didn't mean to make a podcast. It was COVID. My kids wanted to make a Dungeons and Dragons podcast. So I spent a week learning how to make podcasts. But by then they were over it.

I'm going to make a trip and people can come and be involved in my research. And now I've done that for a number of years. I've gotten into this podcast world by creating a podcast. I actually... I didn't mean to make a podcast. It was COVID. My kids wanted to make a Dungeons and Dragons podcast. So I spent a week learning how to make podcasts. But by then they were over it.

I'm going to make a trip and people can come and be involved in my research. And now I've done that for a number of years. I've gotten into this podcast world by creating a podcast. I actually... I didn't mean to make a podcast. It was COVID. My kids wanted to make a Dungeons and Dragons podcast. So I spent a week learning how to make podcasts. But by then they were over it.

So I was like, well, damn, somebody's making a podcast in this house. I guess I'll do it.

So I was like, well, damn, somebody's making a podcast in this house. I guess I'll do it.

So I was like, well, damn, somebody's making a podcast in this house. I guess I'll do it.

Well, I used everything that I had learned from Linda Shealy and my other classes as a graduate student. And I looked at this big area called Program for Belize. It was something like 200,000 acres that were given to Belize by Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola wanted to cut it all down and put an orange grove there to create Orange Crush. Or is that theirs? Yeah, theirs is Crush.

Well, I used everything that I had learned from Linda Shealy and my other classes as a graduate student. And I looked at this big area called Program for Belize. It was something like 200,000 acres that were given to Belize by Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola wanted to cut it all down and put an orange grove there to create Orange Crush. Or is that theirs? Yeah, theirs is Crush.

Well, I used everything that I had learned from Linda Shealy and my other classes as a graduate student. And I looked at this big area called Program for Belize. It was something like 200,000 acres that were given to Belize by Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola wanted to cut it all down and put an orange grove there to create Orange Crush. Or is that theirs? Yeah, theirs is Crush.

But anyway, this huge area was then a research place, and UT had a contract for 20 years to study it. Most of the things they were doing were right along the one and only dirt road through the middle of it. But I bought topo maps from not even the Internet in those days. It was the early 90s, so I had to actually call people.

But anyway, this huge area was then a research place, and UT had a contract for 20 years to study it. Most of the things they were doing were right along the one and only dirt road through the middle of it. But I bought topo maps from not even the Internet in those days. It was the early 90s, so I had to actually call people.

But anyway, this huge area was then a research place, and UT had a contract for 20 years to study it. Most of the things they were doing were right along the one and only dirt road through the middle of it. But I bought topo maps from not even the Internet in those days. It was the early 90s, so I had to actually call people.

But I found topo maps, and I looked at the whole place, and I said, okay, my – are mountain worshipers, and they call their pyramids Tuned Wheat Stone Mountains. And they oftentimes create them in triadic forms, three temples staring at each other. So I'm going to look at this topo map and try to first find the tallest mountain in this area.

But I found topo maps, and I looked at the whole place, and I said, okay, my – are mountain worshipers, and they call their pyramids Tuned Wheat Stone Mountains. And they oftentimes create them in triadic forms, three temples staring at each other. So I'm going to look at this topo map and try to first find the tallest mountain in this area.

But I found topo maps, and I looked at the whole place, and I said, okay, my – are mountain worshipers, and they call their pyramids Tuned Wheat Stone Mountains. And they oftentimes create them in triadic forms, three temples staring at each other. So I'm going to look at this topo map and try to first find the tallest mountain in this area.

So I located that, and just as it happened to be, there were two other smaller mountains right next to it that made a triangle, and there were three rivers that were running in the middle of them. And I thought, that's it. If I was a Maya, that's where I'd want my city to be. And it was about 10 kilometers out off the road. So we had to just hack out there a little bit, a little bit every day.

So I located that, and just as it happened to be, there were two other smaller mountains right next to it that made a triangle, and there were three rivers that were running in the middle of them. And I thought, that's it. If I was a Maya, that's where I'd want my city to be. And it was about 10 kilometers out off the road. So we had to just hack out there a little bit, a little bit every day.

So I located that, and just as it happened to be, there were two other smaller mountains right next to it that made a triangle, and there were three rivers that were running in the middle of them. And I thought, that's it. If I was a Maya, that's where I'd want my city to be. And it was about 10 kilometers out off the road. So we had to just hack out there a little bit, a little bit every day.

And we found four or five villages along the way. But then finally on, I was crossing one of the smaller peaks on my way to the big peak. And that's where the city was on one of those three peaks. It was nice and flat. And that's where we found it. And when's the last time you were down there, Luke?